i have an itr...i got skunk2 stage 2 cams, tuned on hondata s200 (p28). if everything else is stock on the car, and i slap in the original ecu in, can i pass smog? it does not like the stock ecu btw. wont hold idle if its life depended on it. but, can it pass smog like that? or if i put the cams back at 0 instead of advanced or retarded? what you guys think?

 

Your ECU shouldn't determine how well your engine idles. You mean to tell me your car idles perfect with the hondata setup and doesn't with the stock iTR ecu? I would check to see if that ITR ecu has ever been touched.

S2S2's i thought had near stock idle characteristics.

 

lemme clarify a lil...s2s2 cams..tuned on hondata s200...intake cam advance a couple degrees and exhaust cam advance or retarded a couple degrees..dont remember..itr ecu is clean..it does hold idle when i put the cams at 0..but its rough as hell...i wanna know if i put em back to 0 if i can pass smog...i gotta take it to a state ref :/ and y would any stage 2 cam be anywhere near stock cam specs?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by emaka9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lemme clarify a lil...s2s2 cams..tuned on hondata s200...intake cam advance a couple degrees and exhaust cam advance or retarded a couple degrees..dont remember..itr ecu is clean..it does hold idle when i put the cams at 0..but its rough as hell...i wanna know if i put em back to 0 if i can pass smog...i gotta take it to a state ref :/ and y would any stage 2 cam be anywhere near stock cam specs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You will not likely pass smog with those cams, even with the gears set at 0.

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S2S2's i thought had near stock idle characteristics. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I never said the cams would be near stock cam specs. I should've been more clear. What I thought was with those cams, you should be able to tune the car to idle similar to stock.

Best bet: throw in OEM cams just to get you passed smog.

 

OBDII Smog test.

How long can you drive it with the stock ECU and cams zeroed out before it starts flashing codes? If you can go like 40 miles or so without flashing codes, it should be able to pass OBDII smog regardless of how crappy it runs.

It won't pass at all with the P28 because the SMOG machine cannot read an OBDI ECU with a jumper.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slomofo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> It won't pass at all with the P28 because the SMOG machine cannot read an OBDI ECU with a jumper.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right....but the OP did not say he was going to use a P28 ecu....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by emaka9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an itr...i got skunk2 stage 2 cams, tuned on hondata s200 (p28). <U>if everything else is stock on the car, and i slap in the original ecu in, can i pass smog?</U>...</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slomofo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OBDII Smog test.

How long can you drive it with the stock ECU and cams zeroed out before it starts flashing codes? If you can go like 40 miles or so without flashing codes, it should be able to pass OBDII smog regardless of how crappy it runs.

It won't pass at all with the P28 because the SMOG machine cannot read an OBDI ECU with a jumper.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok so if i can get it to idle and run with stock ecu it will pass???

 

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I never said the cams would be near stock cam specs. I should've been more clear. What I thought was with those cams, you should be able to tune the car to idle similar to stock.

Best bet: throw in OEM cams just to get you passed smog.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thnx

 

need help asap plz!!

 

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ok so if i can get it to idle and run with stock ecu it will pass???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Get it to idle, drive it around for about 30 miles to set the OBDII readiness monitors, if there's no CEL, you're good to go.

 

ok thnx alot..will try

 

Are your cam gears exposed? A ref will fail you if you have cam gears. You should just go back to stock cams and gears, and ecu for your smog, what's a couple of hours of work to get your car smogged and legal. You don't want to go to a carb ref with all those parts in your car. He'll laugh right at you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ryan#1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are your cam gears exposed? A ref will fail you if you have cam gears. You should just go back to stock cams and gears, and ecu for your smog, what's a couple of hours of work to get your car smogged and legal. You don't want to go to a carb ref with all those parts in your car. He'll laugh right at you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

According to his other thread in the all motor forum it is a ref. inspection.

 

ya thnx ryan..i do have cam gears..but i also have stock ones...i hear i can pass smog with these cams tho..so how about i just put stock cam gears on it?