Ok I came across some posts on this site searching about smog exemption in California, and I noticed that I've seen 3 or 4 cars for sale that say they have Smog Exemption for life. I think there were like 3 different civics and one Integra.

First of all how is this possible, and what needs to be done to get this done. I have a 95 Integra GSR, and it sucks be cause I have such a good base to start with but smog laws keep me pretty restricted.

Before this car I had a ITR internal-b18c1 powered Civic hatchback. It took me 8 times before I finally passed at the smog ref. Yeah it sucked. I love Hondas but I can't do what I want because of the retarded smog laws.

So once again I know theres some people out there that know the steps to get smog exemption for life. How do I do this? How much does it cost? Please help me out. I would PM a couple of the people I think know how but the site won't let because I'm a new memeber. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

 

Good question im sure many would like to know but the secret is being kept hush hush so not to keep one from being smog exempt it the future.

 

no1 likes to tell bcuzz if they do then everyone is going to start doin that and sooner or later they going to catch on and they probably wont allow it anymore

 

1st post by this noob dose not waste anytime doses he?

 

It's not even close to being a "secret" or "hush hush." It's a legal loophole and there's a member on here (haw8st or something) who's always soliciting that service. But I assure you it will cost more than your car is worth.

Just get used to swapping in a stock motor like everyone else when you need to pass.

 

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Just get used to swapping in a stock motor like everyone else when you need to pass.</TD></TR></TABLE>


it doesnt cost more than what your car is worth...all you pay is your registration fee and you get your stickers and new registration in the mail

 

I would also like to add if it were that simple with out consequence then everyone would be doing this and not following legal or illegal channels?

I am aware of the legal b/s loopholes that allow you to do this and then I am also aware of the measures people take to make this “loop hole” to there advantage and it is still fraud anyway you look at it and I am sure eventually this will catch up with people that is the end user and naturally the legal people tendering this advice will have no legal obligations despite there perversion of the law to there advantage to make money!

I really think people just need to accept the fact that “smog” is nothing more then the bureaucrats way of sucking more money out of the consumer/public and while the idea may seem appealing right now eventually like all good things it will come to an end the goverment is not stupid and will be interesting to see how the state prosecutes people for this the state just like the IRS lets people have there fun for a while and when they have had enough they start there witch hunt!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richard7968 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would also like to add if it were that simple with out consequence then everyone would be doing this and not following legal or illegal channels?

I am aware of the legal b/s loopholes that allow you to do this and then I am also aware of the measures people take to make this “loop hole” to there advantage and it is still fraud anyway you look at it and I am sure eventually this will catch up with people that is the end user and naturally the legal people tendering this advice will have no legal obligations despite there perversion of the law to there advantage to make money!

I really think people just need to accept the fact that “smog” is nothing more then the bureaucrats way of sucking more money out of the consumer/public and while the idea may seem appealing right now eventually like all good things it will come to an end the goverment is not stupid and will be interesting to see how the state prosecutes people for this the state just like the IRS lets people have there fun for a while and when they have had enough they start there witch hunt!

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Truer words have never been spoken

 

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Thankyou SIR!

 

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it doesnt cost more than what your car is worth...all you pay is your registration fee and you get your stickers and new registration in the mail</TD></TR></TABLE>


No way, I already asked him about it. The cost was a few thousand dollars and it involved a lot of work. When all was said and done, you ended up with Arizona and California plates. Non-California cars are CARB exempt.

The other service he does is convert your car to run on Natural Gas. Once the ref checks it, the car is exempt forever. Then you can switch back to gasoline power, but you'll just have to pray that you don't get pulled over and get an under-hood inspection.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richard7968 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would also like to add if it were that simple with out consequence then everyone would be doing this and not following legal or illegal channels?

I am aware of the legal b/s loopholes that allow you to do this and then I am also aware of the measures people take to make this “loop hole” to there advantage and it is still fraud anyway you look at it and I am sure eventually this will catch up with people that is the end user and naturally the legal people tendering this advice will have no legal obligations despite there perversion of the law to there advantage to make money!

I really think people just need to accept the fact that “smog” is nothing more then the bureaucrats way of sucking more money out of the consumer/public and while the idea may seem appealing right now eventually like all good things it will come to an end the goverment is not stupid and will be interesting to see how the state prosecutes people for this the state just like the IRS lets people have there fun for a while and when they have had enough they start there witch hunt!

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im not sure if you call this loophole legal or illegal because you still do this thru the DMV

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richard7968 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would also like to add if it were that simple with out consequence then everyone would be doing this and not following legal or illegal channels?

I am aware of the legal b/s loopholes that allow you to do this and then I am also aware of the measures people take to make this “loop hole” to there advantage and it is still fraud anyway you look at it and I am sure eventually this will catch up with people that is the end user and naturally the legal people tendering this advice will have no legal obligations despite there perversion of the law to there advantage to make money!

I really think people just need to accept the fact that “smog” is nothing more then the bureaucrats way of sucking more money out of the consumer/public and while the idea may seem appealing right now eventually like all good things it will come to an end the goverment is not stupid and will be interesting to see how the state prosecutes people for this the state just like the IRS lets people have there fun for a while and when they have had enough they start there witch hunt!

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The government will NEVER outsmart the people. Loopholes will forever exist. You can't prosecute someone for finding a loophole

 

ive been doing this for 3 years now thru theDMV and they havent said nothing yet...i have never brought my car to smog once ever since i had my car which was over 5 years ago...96 jdm gsr into 98 hatch, no cat, no emission equipment hooked up, running 1 o2 sensor and running JDM ecu...i only pay my $65 registration fee and i get my stickers and new reg. paper in the mail within 2-3 weeks

 

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im not sure if you call this loophole legal or illegal because you still do this thru the DMV</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL

example ok!
you file your taxes though the IRS people still cheat on the loopholes and such however once again the government always gets the last laugh on way or another!

i could go on and on with examples but at the end of the day you either get what im saying or you don't either way you have been warned!


and as for this!

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The government will NEVER outsmart the people. Loopholes will forever exist. You can't prosecute someone for finding a loophole </TD></TR></TABLE>

all I can say is the government loves people who think this way!


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Well it could be next year could be never just depends if someone gets a hair up there *** and want some blood!

the government loves nothing more then to make examples of people!

for the record though i am in NO WAY discrediting the government branch in anyway shape or form

 

i smell bacon!!

 

So how much does it costs to convert to natural gas, and then back to gasoline?