I have been looking into Hondata etc, and the issue is passing the beloved OBD2 scan for state inspection (This is for BB6 Lude/5th Gen) and I am wondering, why wouldn't (provided it can be tuned) it be possible to use a K-Series ecu? I mean at the end of the day, the ECU takes readings from a handful of sensors, O2, MAP/MAF, IAT, CLT, etc etc, which are all on any OBD2 car, and since the K series is a programmable ECU via hondata why not take my existing ECU pinout and convert it over (via a harness) to the appropriate pins on a K series ECU? Is there any reason why this can't be done? I am thinking the immobilization might be an issue but I would presume this could be flat out disabled?

 

you mean other than that fact that the K series engines spin the other direction right?

 

And... immobilizers cant be disabled...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean other than that fact that the K series engines spin the other direction right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah but does that even matter? I assume your thinking for a crank position sensor of some kind? like a 60-2 wheel or some variation? I don't think rotation comes into play other than the fact that the wheel IS rotating and has 60 teeth with a 2 tooth gap, it's the gap that matters no?

I just want to be able to maintain inspectability with an H22 and OBD2 and be able to tune, is that really THAT difficult of a task?

 

what about the fact that the k20 doesn't have a distributor?

 

so use the coilpacks etc from a K20 on a H22? why is that difficult?

 

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ding! ding!

 

yay!! What do i win!!!

 

there are ways around the immobilizer. when my buddy got the kpro for his 02 rsx back in the day he sent out his original ecu, and in return got a different ecu to use that was already chipped. i don't remember exactly what he did to make the new ecu work but he did make it work.

 

I also wonder what must be done, I ran into a guy at the track once, and he said he's running a RSX Type S ecu for his B16 in his 2000 SI?

 

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why would you even want to do that? That's is just kind of retarded imo, using rsx ecu to run a b16. So he is running k20 fuel/ignition maps on his b16?

 

It's not that rediculous. Compared to a regular OBD1 ECU the K* management will be more robust, more tunable and overall be able to produce better results. I say this primarily because an engine can only respond to mods (i.e. make more power) if the engine management can take advantage of them. I don't see why it's that impossible to do it. I am sure most of the sensors are going to be pretty similar.

All the standard sensors might be "different" but they still probably have the same range, i.e. the coolant temp sensor (or whatever other random sensor) probably has a range from 0-5v (or some such) with a resistance of whatever, and while the sensors might be different part numbers it's not far off to imagine the voltage range is similar if not the same.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vladd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are ways around the immobilizer. when my buddy got the kpro for his 02 rsx back in the day he sent out his original ecu, and in return got a different ecu to use that was already chipped. i don't remember exactly what he did to make the new ecu work but he did make it work.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He probably got a reflash ecu, plus that fact that you just said it was kpro so it couldn't be a stock ecu


Now refering to ludelooker

I get what your saying but the dude is running a stock rsx ecu on a b16. Unless your saying he figured out a way to modify the stock maps on the stock rsx ecu to run the b16? He must be a genius because I have never heard of anyone figuring a way to do that(besides reflash) w/o using kpro. Imagine if you figured out a way to wire it all out, now put in a rsx type s ecu on a b16=running like sh** because the the fuel/ignition maps are wayyyyyyyy different. If the dude said if was a kpro ecu than that maybe different but he said it was a rsx type s ecu. Plus I think the s300 probably has the same features if not more as the kpro except 3d maps for cam angle. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Well no I was referring to using a K series ECU and using hondata on top of that, so K-Pro is exactly what I am thinking it would run, not just a stock K series ECU, and the reason being is so the car can stay OBD2 for inspections (they plug in to check for rediness here) without having to worry about any hassles