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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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I'm wondering if you have been happy with your MSD setup, or had issues, what are you running, just plain coil, box and coil etc, my current setup I'm going to run has an MSD 6-T box with the soft touch rev control, plus a GM blaster type coil, similar to stock, I mainly wanted to run this for the multiple sparks at the lower RPMS and the rev control,since I dont have any stock
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 12:36 AM
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

mostly noobs use msd on Hondas now. since its been figured out way long ago that stock ignition works great unless its a full on race car custom everything

and for that we have coilon plugs that seems to be working better than msd ignition
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

Originally Posted by raverx3m
mostly noobs use msd on Hondas now. since its been figured out way long ago that stock ignition works great unless its a full on race car custom everything

and for that we have coilon plugs that seems to be working better than msd ignition
So you use MSD stuff?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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bought my first car with msd already installed. had constant issues. replaced with stock ignition no more issues
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 03:37 PM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

Originally Posted by raverx3m
mostly noobs use msd on Hondas now. since its been figured out way long ago that stock ignition works great unless its a full on race car custom everything

and for that we have coilon plugs that seems to be working better than msd ignition
well pretty much everything under my hood except for the block is custom, so I guess that would be the same, this is an 86 Accord, so no coil on plug etc, just the basic Hitachi dizzy, these dizzys are very much like the early datsun ones except they are four cylinder of course instead of six. my original coil had 300000 plus on it, so thats the reason i went with the MSD Gm blaster, it's a U core like factory, not the round blaster, those arent worth anything anyway, round coils tend to suffer badly from hysteresis and become saturated, so your spark energy drops off a bunch much over 5000,
U core type coils are much better. factory is a u core type. my original system was super simple, everything in the dizzy, switched ground directly to the coil. i wanted a little bit more energy since I m going to have pretty high compression, and there was the lack of any kind of rev limit
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by raverx3m
bought my first car with msd already installed. had constant issues. replaced with stock ignition no more issues
what was the issue and what type of coil did you have? I've heard a lot of complaints about the round blaster coils, apparently if you can find a vintage one they are dead reliable, but the ones made in mexico are crap. I've seen issues with them being mounted sideways, since the oil leaks out of the case, and they overheat
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

otc msd stuff is a waste of time, use what works and is user friendly. or not, but don't cry when you have issues.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smilindave
otc msd stuff is a waste of time, use what works and is user friendly. or not, but don't cry when you have issues.
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i'm just asking peoples opinions, some people say it's crap, some people never have problems,
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

it was 2 round coils that went out on me before I replaced it with stock ignition

since were on topic has anyone tested the accel yellow high output coil vs stock one?
I had one of those too and it worked but to tell if it was better who knows...

some people say Hyundai is a racecar.. and single cam is fast

it seems that round coils had very high failure rate when used in Hondas
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 10:52 PM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

I know the issue with the round coils, they were designed for low revving american engines, they work fine on them, but they dont do well at higher rpm. it's just an inherent issue with round coils, thats why the different types of cores were invented. you'll see manufacturers claiming their coils are good to 8-9000 rpm, but no round coil can produce anywhere near full output at that rpm, they become so saturated that the field wont collapse fast enough to generate spark properly
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

I have had the "round" MSD Blaster coil and MSD cap/rotor on my 94RS for over 7 years, without a single problem.

What we find at out shop, [Dave Ward Auto Electric] is most of the problems in Honda/Acura using MSD is no resistor is used. 94
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

Originally Posted by fcm
I have had the "round" MSD Blaster coil and MSD cap/rotor on my 94RS for over 7 years, without a single problem.

What we find at out shop, [Dave Ward Auto Electric] is most of the problems in Honda/Acura using MSD is no resistor is used. 94
My instructions didnt call for a ballast resistor what is interesting,and im not sure if they still do this, a lot of the honda coils have a 2.2 k current limiting resistor between the coil negative and the tach wire, its inside of the coil case, since on mine that would be coming straight off the igniter negative to coil, which is now the msd trigger, ill wire it back in, i dont need the tach out since everything on mine was originally tapped off that negative and resistor
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

That is how I have my blaster coil wired, but still have the resistor...
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

Originally Posted by fcm
That is how I have my blaster coil wired, but still have the resistor...
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what kind of clip are you using on your cannon plug?
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 06:18 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

Originally Posted by lostforawhile
what kind of clip are you using on your cannon plug?
It was a fuse holder, [AGU] that I had laying around and it just happened to fit. 94

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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

Im using an MSD 7al-2 MSD coil and MSD cap. Zero problems here at about 750 whp
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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Default Re: poll MSD happy or had issues?

I ran MSD on my race/ street in the 80s. I had very limited success with three systems. They worked for a little more than a year (daily) then began overheating for no reason (6A/6AL/6A w boostcontrol) and left me stuck.
No more MSD for me.
Maybe they are better now, I doubt it though.
I still use their coils.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler Dirden
I ran MSD on my race/ street in the 80s. I had very limited success with three systems. They worked for a little more than a year (daily) then began overheating for no reason (6A/6AL/6A w boostcontrol) and left me stuck.
No more MSD for me.
Maybe they are better now, I doubt it though.
I still use their coils.
I'll have to get a picture of mine, it's mounted upside down under the glovebox area, MSD tech guy said that was fine as long as it was out of moisture, I put a cooling channel under the box and a fan pulling air through the channel, so force air cooled
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