No start when engine is warm
Car is an EF chassis with LS-Vtec - B18b bottom with B16 head, GSR cams, OBD 1 vtec distributor, Hondata s300
I repalced my distributor (Including cap, rotor, ignition coil, ICM, and CKP sensor) because I was getting a CEL for camshaft position sensor. Before replacing the distributor the car ran and started fine, had not had a problem with it starting whether it was warm or cold. The problem I'm having is that when the car is cold, it will start up just fine and STAY running until I turn it off. I have NOT had it turn off by itself and I have run and driven the car for over 30 minutes. If I turn it off when the car is at normal operating temp (>150), it will NOT turn back on untill the engine cools down. It will crank but still not start.
As I said the entire distributor is brand new. I read that this is typically caused by a faulty ignition coil or ICM, however I have tested both of those components in the NEW distributor per the FSM and they both check out just fine. I have not checked the main relay but regardless, when the car is warm and wont start, I can hear the fuel pump and main relay click. I have confirmed that the coolant temp sensor is working correctly by comparing what Hondata said to my AutoMeter water temp gauge. I also confirmed and set proper timing when I replaced the distributor - I used the setting in Hondata to fix the electronic timing the 16 degrees and then I set the mechanical timing to the same via rotating the distributor.
The car ran with no problems, aside from the CEL for the CKP, untill I replaced the distributor.
Can any provide an insight on where I should look next?
Thanks in advance
UPDATE
FIX: Main relay replacement solved this issue.
I repalced my distributor (Including cap, rotor, ignition coil, ICM, and CKP sensor) because I was getting a CEL for camshaft position sensor. Before replacing the distributor the car ran and started fine, had not had a problem with it starting whether it was warm or cold. The problem I'm having is that when the car is cold, it will start up just fine and STAY running until I turn it off. I have NOT had it turn off by itself and I have run and driven the car for over 30 minutes. If I turn it off when the car is at normal operating temp (>150), it will NOT turn back on untill the engine cools down. It will crank but still not start.
As I said the entire distributor is brand new. I read that this is typically caused by a faulty ignition coil or ICM, however I have tested both of those components in the NEW distributor per the FSM and they both check out just fine. I have not checked the main relay but regardless, when the car is warm and wont start, I can hear the fuel pump and main relay click. I have confirmed that the coolant temp sensor is working correctly by comparing what Hondata said to my AutoMeter water temp gauge. I also confirmed and set proper timing when I replaced the distributor - I used the setting in Hondata to fix the electronic timing the 16 degrees and then I set the mechanical timing to the same via rotating the distributor.
The car ran with no problems, aside from the CEL for the CKP, untill I replaced the distributor.
Can any provide an insight on where I should look next?
Thanks in advance
UPDATE
FIX: Main relay replacement solved this issue.
Last edited by kingnothingftw; Mar 17, 2015 at 03:31 PM.
I know I can hear the fuel pump, however, I have read that it will sometimes cut power to the injectors instead of the fuel pump (depends on the car and wiring). So that could be my issue. Weird thing is, is that typically it throws a code for the injectors not having voltage and I have yet to get one. But I'm gonig to try it anyway.
If it isn't the main relay then it really has to be fueling related. I've already changed/tested pretty much everything electrical.
Untill earlier tonight, actually after I made this thread, I didn't know that the main relay also supplied power to the injectors. Only after stumbling across some wiring diagrams and other threads, did I gain this knowledge.
+1 for main relay. i had a similar issue and kept blaming my distributor and every month i would warranty a new 1, and it would run great for a few weeks. But eventually my fuel pump didnt prime and i knew my main relay was to blame this entire time.
just unplug the main relay, take the plastic case off, and look at the soldering thats prob melted and running into everything. Junkyard or buy a new 1 for like 30 bucks, and test it out
just unplug the main relay, take the plastic case off, and look at the soldering thats prob melted and running into everything. Junkyard or buy a new 1 for like 30 bucks, and test it out
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+1 for main relay. i had a similar issue and kept blaming my distributor and every month i would warranty a new 1, and it would run great for a few weeks. But eventually my fuel pump didnt prime and i knew my main relay was to blame this entire time.
just unplug the main relay, take the plastic case off, and look at the soldering thats prob melted and running into everything. Junkyard or buy a new 1 for like 30 bucks, and test it out
just unplug the main relay, take the plastic case off, and look at the soldering thats prob melted and running into everything. Junkyard or buy a new 1 for like 30 bucks, and test it out
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