first off, i have a motor, built it for all motor, consists of:
type-r motor, 12.5:1 compression, 85mm bore, forged pistons, p/p head, TWM 50mm ITB's buddy club4 cams. question was, with proper tuning, is it safe to squeeze on a motor with such high compession, and forged pistons. ive heard different things, but need professional advice. opinions?..this motor has over 10k in it, and ide hate to go blowing it up. hahaha. i was thinking of doing a 65 shot, and a little sneaky sneaky bottle. ive searched, and havent really found anything specific for my setup. some say its best to ahve forged pistons, and spray, some say you can blow holes through them?..BTW: i have probe i-beam rods as well if that helps any?..

OPINIONS?

thanks!

 

ttt

 

Of course NA is going to be more reliable than when adding nitrous on top of the exact same setup. Spencer (BoredNStroked) had his 2.0L ~10:1 LSVTEC on 150 shot last season and blew it up because of a faulty progressive controller. We tuned his setup extremely conservative with Hondata but as you can see, anything can happen. You're talking higher compression with less nitrous but it still balances out. Either way for what you're talking about, you're going to need the gas and tune for it to work. Personally I'd just stick to NA or build a turbo motor...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kataku2K3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Of course NA is going to be more reliable than when adding nitrous on top of the exact same setup. Spencer (BoredNStroked) had his 2.0L ~10:1 LSVTEC on 150 shot last season and blew it up because of a faulty progressive controller. We tuned his setup extremely conservative with Hondata but as you can see, anything can happen. You're talking higher compression with less nitrous but it still balances out. Either way for what you're talking about, you're going to need the gas and tune for it to work. Personally I'd just stick to NA or build a turbo motor...</TD></TR></TABLE> good point, but i want to be fast any other opinions? ttt

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TodaFiend &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> good point, but i want to be fast any other opinions? ttt</TD></TR></TABLE>bump

 

what did you make with that setup?

whos your tuner?
what system did you use to tune the car?

do you want to run 93-94oct when running nitrious ?( its gonna be hard)

can you get 100oct+ in your area ??(much safer)


but you cant be running 100+ all the time plus its alot of money $6+ a gallon

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jason bouchard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what did you make with that setup?

whos your tuner?
what system did you use to tune the car?

do you want to run 93-94oct when running nitrious ?( its gonna be hard)

can you get 100oct+ in your area ??(much safer)


but you cant be running 100+ all the time plus its alot of money $6+ a gallon </TD></TR></TABLE> this setup hasnt even been ran yet.... im going to make it up to church automotive for tuning, using the apex power FC and commander, car will not be streetable, will be usiing 111 octane fuel, i get 111 for about 4.30 a gallon. expensive, but i can afford it. just need some opinions with how the pistons will hold up mainly. thanks

 

Why not just drop the compression a bit to be safe? 10.0-11.0:1? Oh and yea, $4.30/gallon isn't that expensive for race gas so I wouldn't start bragging... Try running straight C16 on a street SFWD/T4 car, it'll run you twice that a gallon.

 

The pistons should hold as long as you can avoid detonation, im not running that high of a compression but im going to go for a 100+ shot direct port on my setup and it doesn't differ that much from yours. You should be fine, I've been told that nitrous and compression are very compatible with each other when tuned properly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kataku2K3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not just drop the compression a bit to be safe? 10.0-11.0:1? Oh and yea, $4.30/gallon isn't that expensive for race gas so I wouldn't start bragging... Try running straight C16 on a street SFWD/T4 car, it'll run you twice that a gallon.</TD></TR></TABLE> who said i was bragging...wow i spent less, you spent twice as much, i dont care, thanks for the opinon tho.

 

Correction Adam....It was 10.5 cr and a 175 shot. Anyway it ran awesome with the hondata but the progressive controller didnt agree with the hondata for some reason ending up in a enormous intake manifold backfire. I never got a decent run down the track but I managed mid 11s at almost 130. If I still had the time I would still be racing that setup. BTW I had no problems with a single stage 125 shot running high 11s at 120ish.