Price $ 3,150 w/o cams proven up to 11.000 RPM , anyone heard abouth these new HONDA/ACURA DART CNC heads ? ?





Modified by douglas_be at 9:24 PM 11/17/2003

 

engines are built not bought................that's all I have to say

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wicked B16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">engines are built not bought................that's all I have to say</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, what does that suppose to mean? It's like a pre-built head. So what?

 

3100 bucks is alot for a head alone........i guess for the serious racer/race team it might be worth it........

for 1000-1500 bucks you can have your stock head ported pretty damn good......

 

Ckeck this out http://www.dartheads.com/honda.htm

 

for 3150..you could build a head to do 12000 rpm's and still have enough to buy a cam that cant even touch those rpm ranges

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by douglas_be &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ckeck this out http://www.dartheads.com/honda.htm</TD></TR></TABLE> yeah baby those blocks look nice, those heads also look nice but they are out of my price range for the moment

 

only if I won the lottery

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phatrick2332 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for 3150..you could build a head to do 12000 rpm's and still have enough to buy a cam that cant even touch those rpm ranges </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep yep what he said.

 

Damn..thats as much as a GSR swap costs (almost)!!

 

Damn I think that's more then their bare blocks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn I think that's more then their bare blocks. </TD></TR></TABLE> well it is, but its not a bare head, there are componenets and installation of those components is also included.

it sure is a ripoff IMHO... anyone can find an old B16 head ($100), send it to Portflow or any other head massager, who can port it ($900), drop in valvetrain of your choice ($100+$400) and work the valves ($300) and even offer cams to match the setup for easily much less $$$ complete, compared to a Dart head.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> anyone can find an old B16 head ($100)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where can you get a B16 head for $100.00 at..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wicked B16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">engines are built not bought................that's all I have to say</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

however I want one of their bare blocks for my turbo project.

 

I'd guess it's probably pretty clean, if you've ever taken a close look at the inside of your head, it looks as if it was machined with a butter knife.

 

i must be missing something obvious... i can't seem to find the headflow numbers, the exhaust to intake ratios, etc.

they did list the intake port volume in cc's, which is good, but how does that compare to a stock head? how do the headflow numbers stack up? how about the i.d. of the port at it's smallest point, as compared to a stock head?

 

JUST RECEIVED THE INFORMATION THAT AEBS WILL BRING OUT A NEW B-SERIES HEAD WIT VERY GOOD headflow numbers !!! And priced not even half the price of this Dart one !

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Dart" &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Our GSR head is already available. There is no Type R configuration. We purchase the GSR castings directly from Honda, then port them, install +1mm valves, and upgrade the valvetrain components.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Hi ,
Thanks for th efigures , I will pass them on to mu head porter and see if he can match them on my head.
Thanks

 

Can you only use a GSR IM with that head?

 

thats sick. I'd buy one in a sec.....after i win the lotto..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by douglas_be &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JUST RECEIVED THE INFORMATION THAT AEBS WILL BRING OUT A NEW B-SERIES HEAD WIT VERY GOOD headflow numbers !!! And priced not even half the price of this Dart one !</TD></TR></TABLE>

Both these heads are real nice, but you can take a stock one and make it awesome for your application for alot less.

 

The flow numbers are really nice
not a bad deal for outta the box type deal

 

+ 1 over valves???? Guess none of the(bigger cammed like me) allmotor guys are going to be able to use these. I was told from someone this weekend that it only flows 280. But I can't prove that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tbone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">+ 1 over valves???? Guess none of the(bigger cammed like me) allmotor guys are going to be able to use these. I was told from someone this weekend that it only flows 280. But I can't prove that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so are you trying to say that this head basically isn't worth the money. i guess it is kinda obvious and i am not gonna jump on it and buy one tonight, but i am just kinda curious