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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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here are some pictures...was told it was a 98 itr head. Plus want to know if the scaring damage can be fixed? Thanks.

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the pr3-3 stamp


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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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no one knows huh? Should of post this in the allmotor forum...they might have answers.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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anyone?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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b16 head..93...its really hard to tell that first year is 1993 i believe, but i have a gsr head, off a 94 jdm b18c, but it has 93 too on it, but the head came straight from honda, so i'm assuming its either a 93/94 b16 head..pr3=b16
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by methos713 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here are some pictures...was told it was a 98 itr head. Plus want to know if the scaring damage can be fixed? Thanks.

head number


the pr3-3 stamp


the damage



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Whats up with the journals? It looks like there are hairline cracks in them. Also they are very scuffed. Was the motor it was on previously oil starved?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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-i cannot clearly read the first 2 digits in the first circle on the stamps.
-It is either a b16 or ITR head by the PR3 casting number
-Damage may be fixable with honing the caps.
-Jim Justice should have his hone by now. Call him up and send him the pics 301-624-1000
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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thanks...and I don't know if there was stravation. All I was told was that the journals can be fixable and that it was a 98 itr head. As for that hairline crack...I didn't noticed it until I took the pix and posted it up...sucks But I'll go check the head to see if it is a crack. Does jim have h-t, cause I could just pm him.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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what else can I do to decide if this is a itr head? Could I check the valvesprings...since oem has the orange/blue color on them? Thanks.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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-what are the first 2 numbers on the head?
-are the intake valves necked?
-is there any port work done at the bowls?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Not a 99 head, is either 93 or 94, and most likely a B16A head, but if you have a good machine shop they can tell you for sure by the ports. I would also say that the damage is probably not fixable, but then again never tried, simply because I would not want to have my cams in that head spinning up to 10 grand, even after I had it fixed. Even honing them I would wonder what you would do to fix the gap that it would creatre around the cam, because if the cam moves in that journal even a little it will just keep destroying your cam seals.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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well, I'm going to take it to a machine shop and have them look at the damage, to see if its fixable. And what do you mean by "are the intake valves necked"?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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being that its a 93 head, I HIGHLY doubt it has anything to do with a type r. year of head manufacture is usually the model year of vehicle, or one year prior. I dont think honda would let the heads sit around for a few years and then use them.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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well, this head could be trash...I'm going to try going to some more shops to see what could be done about it.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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I would pretty much classify that head as junk. If you try to have the cam journals align honed, it will move the cams closer to the rocker/valves and probably throw off the valve geometry as well as the timing belt relationship.
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