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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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hey, i attempted to do a brake job on the rear of my integra. on one of the screws on the rotor, the screw got stripped so i tried to use a screw extractor. The problem is the tip of that broke off in the screw and then i tried to drill it out now it wont even drill. anyone have any tips for me? id appreciate any help at all. if anyone is in the MD area id pay for someone to take it out so hit me up. thanks everyone
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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good luck, happneed to me when i took apart my distributor....i just kept trying to get it out for 30 min and it came out eventually.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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use a small chisel and get a hammer...hold the chisel at 12 oclock on the screw, hopefully in between the screw driver's path first at about a 65 degree angle to make indentation then at a 45 degree angle to the left of course and pound the chisel carefully as possible.....next time use an impact driver to take them off and put on...new screws from Honda also there abou 90 cents each...
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:27 AM
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I had the same exact problem three weeks ago. The only way I could get it out was to heat it red hot and yank on the rotor. It eventually broke the head off the screw. Then I just unscrewed it with vice grips.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Dont use screw extractors..... just drill the head off. Start with a small bit, and work the size up one at a time till the head pops off.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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I broke a screw off in my fuel rail. My buddy's dad drilled a small hole and then used a screw extractor to get it out. Less than 10 minutes and I had a fine and dandy fuel rail again.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont use screw extractors..... just drill the head off. Start with a small bit, and work the size up one at a time till the head pops off.</TD></TR></TABLE> too late.....thats my problem.....the screw extractor broke off in the nail and now the naikl is pretty much indistructable im so fucked
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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can you get a dremel in there and cut the head off?...... i had that problem with the brake tool that you put in the screw then you hit it with the hammer. the tip of the screwdriver broke in it....i had to use an eyeglass screwdriver to get it out, but it came right out.......
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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here are the pictures if anyone in the MD/VA area can help me out i will give money for gas plus a 30 pack of cold beer! please....anyone. I dont mean to beg, and i know this is the last time i touch the brakes at all!



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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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See the other two holes? They are threaded.... use two 6x1.0 mm bolts and thread them in evenly (turn one bolt a few turns, then the other) and see if you can pop the rotor off the hub that way. The screw head may be weakened enough that will do it - dont jam them in there so hard that you hurt the hub though.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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are you sure its threaded? also is there a drill bit that is strong enough to drill through this metal? the thing is the screw extractor got stuck in the screw and it is very tough metal. do you know of any drill that is strong enough to do that? or do you know of anyway i could cut around the screw hole? so the only thing left is that screw? thanks for your advice!
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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this is what i did last week, just get the smallest drill bit you have and drill it a lil bit then keep moving up drill bit sizes and youll eventually be able to pull the rotor off
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by desipiE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you sure its threaded? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I'm sure. Thats how I always pull stuck rotors off..... pounding on them with a hammer gives me a ffing headache. M6x1.0mm bolt.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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damnit. i tried using a propane torch and it still wouldnt come off. is there anyway to get the hub off with the rotor still on there? thanks guys!
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Did you try the bolts?
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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do try the bolts first, if that doesnt work, i dremeled mine out w/ a bit. took a while but it did the trick
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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I honestly hate dremels. Those bits are so damn brittle, could barely cut through bondo or JB weld, I'd hate to see what real metal will do to them. Best bet is to get the damn thing off of the car and take it to a drill press where the bit won't wobble and break.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridej7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had that problem with the brake tool that you put in the screw then you hit it with the hammer.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

a.k.a. = impact driver
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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is there away i can take the hub off with the rotor still on it? if so can anyone tell me how to do this? thanks a lot
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by desipiE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there away i can take the hub off with the rotor still on it? if so can anyone tell me how to do this? thanks a lot</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, there are four bolts that attach the hub to the trailing arm or hub. But I think your best bet is to continue drilling the head off of the damaged bolt until you can clear the rotor/or drum past the bolt.
After it's off, spray some PB Blaster on it and let it soak, then remove the remaining bolt.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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i say use the bolts and just tighten them down till it breaks loose, it will either break the rotor in half, i know its sounds crazy but it will, or it will break the head off of that either way your good.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by desipiE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there away i can take the hub off with the rotor still on it? if so can anyone tell me how to do this? thanks a lot</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you try the bolts?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. B in Az &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes, there are four bolts that attach the hub to the trailing arm or hub. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats not what he asked.

To take the hub off with the rotor attached, pop the dust cover off the rear hub in the center of the rotor, then remove the 32mm nut behind it. The hub will just slide off.

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you try the bolts?

Thats not what he asked.

To take the hub off with the rotor attached, pop the dust cover off the rear hub in the center of the rotor, then remove the 32mm nut behind it. The hub will just slide off.</TD></TR></TABLE>rj, we actually took that 32 mm bolt off earlier and the hub still wont slide off.....why would this be? i havent tried your bolt idea, but i def will if my friends industrial strength drill cant drill this thing out. the problem is that the screw extractor broke off into the screw, and then i tried to drill it out and now the metal is so industructable, its just crazy. thanks for everyones advice i appreciate it!
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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I assume you have a new rotor, so get an angle grinder in there and go to town.

Grind it down so the head of the screw is no longer holding the rotor.

Get bolts that fit the other open holes in the rotor and alternate tightening each one until the rotor comes off.

You may want to get a decent set of drill bits too, the bits featured in your pic look kinda shady-

good luck
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tyro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I assume you have a new rotor, so get an angle grinder in there and go to town.

Grind it down so the head of the screw is no longer holding the rotor.

Get bolts that fit the other open holes in the rotor and alternate tightening each one until the rotor comes off.

You may want to get a decent set of drill bits too, the bits featured in your pic look kinda shady-

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Yeah, expecially for drilling out bolts and bolt extractors. They are usually hardened metal (but they're so god damn brittle!). If you're set on trying to drill that son-of-a-bitch out go to someplace like Sears and buy a bit ment for drilling out hard metal.

Go slow with a lot of pressure and metal chips will just start to come off, keep oiling the bit to keep it from getting too hot and ruining it.

My friend and I had to drill out the studs on my old cat so I could reuse it (poor as fawk at the time). We ended up using an air grinder, angle grinder, and drill press to get it back to working condition.
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