what are you guys' normal prices for the following:

1. milled head

2. hot tank head

3. hot tank block

4. micropolish crank

5. balance/blueprint rotating assy.

6. install valvesprings, retainers, valves

7. cylinder hone

8. cylinder bore

9. line honing anywhere
just looking for general prices becasue im curious. thats all.
if you have any similar machine work jobs please include those.

THIS THREAD WILL BE FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR SIMILAR INFO SO PLEASE MAKE IT AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

thank you all.
-derek


Modified by hybridvteceg at 8:22 AM 6/5/2004

 

hone + bore = $105

 

yeah, its gonna run around $800-$900

add alignhone to the list. thatll put it right around $1000-$1100.

they are gonna have to cut valves, seats.

yeah, had a block bored/honed, micro-polished crank, balanced, rods shot-peened/polished/heat treated for $375.
had a head milled, new valve train, align-honed, tanked for $385.
and i got a slight deal cause my machinist liked my attitude.

 

i have overpaid 200 for a bore and hone
and (EDIT: because some people really read out of context.)200 for a line hone at the crank journals.


Modified by hybridvteceg at 11:17 PM 6/7/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have overpaid 200 for a bore and hone
and overaid 200 for a line hone at the crank journals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if they did it right, then who cares, right?

 

bump for more people.

 

do you even understand what has to be done for a block to be align-honed? be quiet since you dont. any reputable machine shop wont do an align-hone for less than $200!
they have to machine down the main caps so when they align hone the block it will still be the right dimensions. so in order to do that, they need to remove all of the dowel pins. then they have to square all the caps on the mill, and cut them. from there they take it back to the block. the block then has to be squared up on the align hone machine, the caps then have to be torqued down in sequence, then everything is ready to be cut. then after the cut, they have to tank the block to get rid of the shavings so some ignorant kid doesnt assemble his engine then eat it up with those shavings.

when you realize an engines power is made at the machinists hands, you will then appreciate the money spent at the machine shop.

 

ok wasnt really complaining. just trying to make this a good thread.

 

i aint mad, its just people need to know this stuff. the first step to building a strong engine is to know the machinist end of it. you dont need to be an expert, but you should have some knowledge of what can be done, and how it is done.

 

ok then enlighten us instead of ramping on and sounding angry. theres no place for that here.

 

heres the deal, half the people here who think they know something really dont know ****. my tolerance for their ignorance sits at zero. then i see what you write, as though you could have an honest opinion about getting ripped off when you dont even understand what it takes to alignhone journals.

 

thanks for the second rant. now back to the threadas point.

take up your quarrels with people on PMs.

 

more prices?

 

come on guys

 

Here's roughly what I paid for my motor build:

Head Mill: $40
Micropolish crank: $25
Balance bottom end: $150 (normally charge $180)
Hone: $10 per cylinder

 

heres some prices that i found locally for me
Norpa Machine Shop hours:8-5 m-f
1635 Woodside Dr
Woodbridge, VA 22191
(703) 494-4496
they just got a brand new top end valve seat machine too:
mill: 35
hot tank: 20
install valvetrain: 35
basic valve job vtec:around 10per valve
basic valve job non-v:around 10 per valve
5angle valve job: add 80 on ex valves
bore x hone:100


Don's Precision Heads Inc
1030 Cannons Ct
Woodbridge, VA 22191
(703) 491-4323
have 4 valve seat machine
mill: 60
hot tank: 20
basic valve job vtec:220
basic valve job non-v:220
install valvetrain:40
install valve seals:60
bore x hone:90

racing fow development.
phone-703.541.0565
in lorton.
mill:40
hot tank:35
race valve job vtec:250
race valve job non-v:250
install valvetrain:200 and check heights
install valve seals:included with valvetrain install

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are you guys' normal prices for the following:

1. milled head $50

2. hot tank head $20

3. hot tank block $45

4. micropolish crank

5. balance/blueprint rotating assy. $150

6. install valvesprings, retainers, valves complete valve job $12/valve

7. cylinder hone $15/cyl

8. cylinder bore bore&hone $40/cyl

9. line honing anywhere $280


just looking for general prices becasue im curious. thats all.
if you have any similar machine work jobs please include those.

THIS THREAD WILL BE FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR SIMILAR INFO SO PLEASE MAKE IT AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

thank you all.
-derek


Modified by hybridvteceg at 8:22 AM 6/5/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

prices above
these prices are from a local place called Paeco Industries
but the do a lot of mail order work
http://www.paeco.com
or email paeco@hiwaay.net
1-800-326-6401

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RABHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you even understand what has to be done for a block to be align-honed? be quiet since you dont. any reputable machine shop wont do an align-hone for less than $200!
they have to machine down the main caps so when they align hone the block it will still be the right dimensions. so in order to do that, they need to remove all of the dowel pins. then they have to square all the caps on the mill, and cut them. from there they take it back to the block. the block then has to be squared up on the align hone machine, the caps then have to be torqued down in sequence, then everything is ready to be cut. then after the cut, they have to tank the block to get rid of the shavings so some ignorant kid doesnt assemble his engine then eat it up with those shavings.

when you realize an engines power is made at the machinists hands, you will then appreciate the money spent at the machine shop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

YOUR DAMN RIGHT

 

like i said . i wasnt complaining.

 

hmm...a good mill job should run around $80. ive seen numerous half *** machine shops put out crooked heads...meaning the cc's on one end steadily declined/inclined across the head, caused by the head not being properly leveled.

the block/head is going to be tanked anyway, so dont pay extra for that. if you have a greasy *** block/head, take time to get ahold of some Simple Green and a scrub brush and get to work. if you have access to a pressure washer, it will make the job much easier.

before you take the head down to the machine shop, break down the LMA's in the head, including rocker arms, vtec solenoid, cams, etc... the machinist will appreciate the fact you are trying to save him a headache...besides, its not rocket science. just make sure you keep all parts in order for re-install.

$280 is a bit high in my book for align-hone...price should be around $200-$230.

bore/hone with a 400 stone always costs me $12/cylinder.

balance bottom end...depends on the equipment they have. older machines actually grind material away from the counter balance, while a newer machine actually drills small holes into it, taking nothing away from the aerodynamics of the counter balances, or the knife edge.

i paid $11/rod for them to be shot peened/polished.

micro-polishing should run around $60 dollars, be it a crank or cam shaft.

 

yeah ive taken apart the head that im taking down soon already.
heres the prices i was quoted from 3 shops today:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=865158

 

TLB Auto Machine, CT.
(B18B motor)

Hot-tank: $95
Hone: $65


Arico, CT.
(B18B motor)
Hot-tank, hone, bore : $200

These are some prices I had lieing around from some phone calls the other day.

-PHiZ

 

know your angles also...radius flows the best, 5 angle, 3 angle, and 1 angle. let the machinist know what the specs are for your cam, and the bind point on the springs because he can countersink the spring so it will bind under a higher lift, ie:12.2 bind previos, 12.8 bind prior.
ask if they check the cc's across the head before and after they mill.

 

valve job, milled head, back cut valves-$310.

 

ive heard radius jobs are hype.