For a 99 si
What are some good names?
N e thoughts on the cusco two-way LSD? compared to the spoon LSD?
ANd also Exedy fullface clutch and flywheel?

Thanx

 

What are your plans for the car? What usage? Track, autox, drag, street? Ralley? Clutch type LSD can cause odd handling that require different setups and driving techniques but put the most power down, even with one wheel off the ground. But they require regular oil changes with a specific fluid. They can make it easier to break axles.

As for flywheels, I have seen a number of people not happy with aluminum ones. Under hard use they can warp. If gotten really hot, the aluminum is weaker than steel. Only usually a problem with hard drag race use with serious slip off the line dumping a lot of heat into the flywheel. Don't know about specific brands though.

 

For just all around (street, strip, etc.), I will always recommend Quaife... If you're doing a straight drag car I would go with a Kazz, as the clutches wear you will have to change them but it's not all that bad... Easiest route is still Quaife... As for flywheels, I absolutely have aluminum ones, I've seen them warp, holes ovalize, etc... They're just a pain in the *** and too much work... The only type of lightened flywheel I would ever go with would be a steel one... Stock is cool for me unless you're running a Tilton clutch, that's just a lot easier... Just my $0.02, Latez

 

Kazz LSD's have to be setup or orded for drag racing since they are mainly used for Gymkhana(AutoX), circuit and drifting. The biggest difference between ATBD(Auto Torque Biasing differential: Quaife, Xebec, OEM helical) and clutch LSD's is the type of lookups avaible. The types of lockup below do NOT apply to ATBD's.

1way lock-up only locks on accel.
1.5way locks on accel and partially on decel.
2way locks on accel and decel. ** for expert users only!!**

I always use the ATS site to explain the differences in lockups.




Yes, Clutch LSD's need overhauls and specific oils (75w-90) but there is a clutch LSD setup for every situation. I have been using a Mugen 1.5way for 4 years without any problems. I am a maintenance freak so the diff oil gets changed everytime I change my oil. Eventhough the LSD was not showing any signs of wear I overhauled it before going turbo and had the initial torque setup for drag racing. Initial torque refers to the amount of force needed to make the LSD fully engage. Go back to the 1st ATS pic and look at the cams. The cam angle can also be ordered for late and light, normal, early and heavy (55*/50*/45*) lock up. Cam angle, lockup type and initial torque are the main things to look at but disc material , disc size, disc quantity, carrier design and spider gear size are equally important. Most out of the ox Kazz FWD setups are quick lockup, high initial torque setups meant for cars that will be doing tight turns and manuevers.

I have been setting up, installing, repairing clutch LSD setups since '95 and I have seen quite a few DIE because of incorrect fluid use (30w motor oil with a clutch LSD, 75w-150 for RWD will kill your FWD tranny before the diff), drag racing with a drift setup, low fluid level leading to an overheating diff that explodes and a bunch of other dumb things.

If the thought of rebuilds, proper break-in and proper setup scare you then an ATBD like Quaife, Xebec or OEM Honda would be a better choice. The best thing about the Quaife is the lifetime warranty!!

If you want a matched Clutch/flywheel setup the OS Giken, Cusco, ORC, Exedy and ATS super singles are awesome kits. ATS and Exedy have carbon fiber disc options that vastly reduce drivetrain shock. All of them come with Flywheel, PP, metal or carbon disk, and an aftermarket T/O bearing. H-T members "Kengs" runs a Cusco on his NA EK and "MiraiZ" is about to install my old Cusco super single on his boosted JDM ITR since I am upgrading to an OS twin. "AJpwr" also sells and has experience with Japanese Super single and twin plate kits.



Modified by Dee at 7:46 AM 8/12/2003

 

I bought the whole spoon setup..Clucth,flywheel and LSD...also the JDM ITR final drive...N e input on n e of them?

 

n e one?

 

i thought the OEM JDM Honda one was a clutch type set up??

 

OEM EF/DA LSD's are viscous
OEM EG/Non DC2/8 LSD's are vicsous
ITR/EK9 diffs are helical
EK4 and '98~ non-ITR DC2/DC8 could get dealer installed helical ITR/CTR diffs

 

What about the H22 LSDs? BB4/BB6/CD6/CL7?

and i read your roll cage thread. i'm an Accord guy, but i'm glad your still around Dee.

 

all OEM Honda LSD's are either viscous or helical

The only car to get a clutch LSD was the Mugen packaged EF9 "Race base" model and that was more of a dealer option than a factory option.

 

hello, hate to bring up old threads, but i am looking to rebuild my oem gsr lsd and was looking for a parts source or someone who could rebuild it for me. If you could help send me an email at coryregg@sympatico.ca

Thanks.

 

quaife, clutchmaster's flywheel, and act extreme plate and street disc

 

can you fit an CTR/ITR LSD into a B16 tranny? sorry if that sounds real noobish, dont know shiz about trannsmissions. Also, whats a good website to find OEM used/new LSDs?