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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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Alright, got my car aligned and im still EATING the inside of the tires up,it eats them up in no time....wtf...
Caster, is all messed up, would that cause tire wear?i know it usually doesnt, but its soo messed up that i dont know..
Im going to try swapping front upper control arm since i heard they'll give you like 3 degrees more caster.

the car has been in a big accindent before and i know the frame is bent, but its not worth for me to spend $1000 to get it to a frame machine.I just want it not to eat my tires anymore.

edit:STOCK suspension

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OK GOT NEW ALIGNMENT TODAY

little of specs:
-since the alignment above i lowered the car with eibach sportlines(1.8?)
-i also switched upper control arms since my caster was all fucked cause of the subframe being bent.Well, what a difference...the car feels a lot more stable now; even though steering effort is greatly increased(no ps). but at least is closer to specs.I can also say that they add 3 degrees of caster.
-Used 1 washer on the back for camber and it worked great



well, after the alignment was done the car STILL pulls to the right A LOT. i know that the difference in caster makes the car pull to the right a little, but this much????I mean its only .7 degrees difference...

why is my car still pulling to the right?

HELP, or im going into a nervous breakdown and going to start burning my car piece by piece so it suffers...

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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1994 type r...haha, sorry but that's funny
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ej6andslow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1994 type r...haha, sorry but that's funny</TD></TR></TABLE>

j00 don't know what "ex." means do j00
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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ex = EXCEPT

and no caster wont jack up your tires, all caster does is either cause your car to pull or push, making it harder or easier to steer. Get under neath your car and start grabbing ball joints and checking for wear, then check for bent tie rods, and any loose bushings. Is your steering very loose or has a lot of play, then check your rach and pinion for worn or loose connections to the firewall ( I think thats where it is). Hopefully I helped a little.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thrillhouse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ex = EXCEPT

and no caster wont jack up your tires, all caster does is either cause your car to pull or push, making it harder or easier to steer. Get under neath your car and start grabbing ball joints and checking for wear, then check for bent tie rods, and any loose bushings. Is your steering very loose or has a lot of play, then check your rach and pinion for worn or loose connections to the firewall ( I think thats where it is). Hopefully I helped a little. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I 2nd that motion. Something is either broken, or loose. The static alignment numbers look ok, but once the car is rolling or turning the wheels get pulled out of alignment and hence the tire wear...

thats my guess
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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his subframe is bent.....that's what we're thinking the whole problem is


and i saw the "ex" but i had to rip on him about somethign
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRswapandslow. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">his subframe is bent.....that's what we're thinking the whole problem is

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Not just bent, the whole subframe is pushed BACKWARDS towards the rear of the car, and not just a little either.

The only way you are going to fix this is to put it on a frame straightener and install a new subframe. Might be cheaper to sell the car and get another one. The thing must wander all over the road with that much negative caster.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MightyMouseTech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The thing must wander all over the road with that much negative caster.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah like a crab stoned on weed
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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TTT
since new alignment is done and still fuecked
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 04:56 AM
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 05:18 AM
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It will stay that way until you fix the unibody and the beam.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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so anybody know if that difference in caster will pull the car to the right so much?
i let go of the steering and the car just turns right...
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Are you dense?
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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lol...

the answers have been posted...fix the subframe, or sell the car...
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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If possible fix your camber. Not much you can do about the caster values but both camber and caster are biased toward the right. Decreasing the left camber 1 degree(making it -.4 now) should reduce the pull to a drift. Good luck and next time make sure they include the SAI numbers.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thrillhouse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ex = EXCEPT

and no caster wont jack up your tires, all caster does is either cause your car to pull or push, making it harder or easier to steer. Get under neath your car and start grabbing ball joints and checking for wear, then check for bent tie rods, and any loose bushings. Is your steering very loose or has a lot of play, then check your rach and pinion for worn or loose connections to the firewall ( I think thats where it is). Hopefully I helped a little. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If a reputable shop did your alignment they would tell you your ball joints, tie rods, and bushings are whack. Usually they wouldn't align it until its fixed. Of course when the frame is all bent to crap most shops would tell you thats the problem. Take it to a better shop next time and they will tell you whats wrong with your car.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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thanks everybody for your replay's.
I already know what is wrong with the car, sub-frame and right shock tower. What i was asking is a temporary fix for the alignment until i decide on what to do.

to Louie for pointing me in the right direction on how to align the car so the pull will be lessened.
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