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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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Default Increasing grounds to free up HP

Doing some research I came across an article that talked about freeing up hp just by adding more grounds (wiring from battery I assume). The only prob is the article didn't mention where I should be attaching them. I was thinking of adding about 6 more wires to my car - 3 to chassis, one to alt, and one to tranny? I'm looking at purchasing some sound system wires.

Has anyone done this before? If so, where should the grounds be connecting to for max effect, and what kinda wiring is recommended (gauge, brand, etc?)

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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Just clean up your existing grounds.

You will see no more than maybe 2 horses from doing your grounds, and that would only be from poor existing ones.

Make sure all your grounds are on metal to metal and not metal on paint. Clean everything with a mixture of 1 part baking soda and 1 part water and an old toothbrush to remove an corosion (visible or not).



EDITED To clean up "horsepower" claim


[Modified by Spade, 8:30 AM 4/8/2003]
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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will do
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Increasing grounds to free up HP (EF8_SiR)

Contact Tommy_Gunns. He constructed a number of "earthing kits" and will be able to help you with the earthing locations.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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OK, everyone's going to have their opinions on this subject. Here's mine...

Unless your stock system is totally corroded and in poor shape, adding a 'ground kit' will NOT free up horsepower. The largest current draw during operation occurs during the starting sequence when the starter motor is drawing a lot of current. After that, normal operating current draw is relatively quite small. I'm sure if you read the details of any tests done before and after adding ground kits you will discover other items have been replaced or upgraded to achieve the supposed 'gains'.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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well most hondas we use are as much as 16 years old..mine is 12 and well i dont see why a larger guage wire and better grounds wouldnt do what they say, ive read a lot about it, and IT studied it on a WRX, it made supposed power, but for 20-30$ at the stereo shop and doing it urself y the hell not..
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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ground systems CAN increase power if done properly. Most people have the wrong misconception of the hyperground system as they think the horsepower gain is only from a better connection. The whole idea is to create a common ground through out the electrical system so the same voltage will be seen by all the sensors and ECU. differences in voltages between the various sensors and ECU will cause slightly off readings that the ECU sees. To create a common ground, you would wire the ground system in a chain fashion.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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Would wiring from audio equipment (eg phoenix gold, etc) w/ gold clips work?
how many gauges is recommended and what about oxygen free?
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 04:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The whole idea is to create a common ground through out the electrical system so the same voltage will be seen by all the sensors and ECU. differences in voltages between the various sensors and ECU will cause slightly off readings that the ECU sees. </TD></TR></TABLE>

True to a point, but most sensors readings are under 5 volts and draw low current. Besides, they almost all have their own dedicated cicuits back to the ECU. (two and three wire connectors, etc)You would likely have more problems from corroded contacts in the connectors that offsets sensor readings, and additional grounding wouldn't correct that condition. Of course, if it makes you feel better, there is no harm in adding a ground system. I just don't believe there is as huge a gain as some claim.


Modified by Perfectionist at 1:36 PM 4/9/2003
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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For what they charge for the fround kits, it's not worth it, go to radio shack, spend 10-15 bucks on stereo grounds.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRuggiero_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For what they charge for the fround kits, it's not worth it, go to radio shack, spend 10-15 bucks on stereo grounds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep...thats the best idea..
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