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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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I don't post here much but am in desperate need of some help. i hope someone here can assit me. To make a long story short I will sum things up for you.

1. I buy a 2000 Civic Si and 6 Months later blow the Motor due to my Timing Belt being too tight.
2. I start a complete rebuild of the Motor consisting of several all Motor Parts.
3. Motor Build is Completed and Car runs Mint
4. On the way up to my first Auto-X Event the Timing Belt Teeth break and I bend several Valves.
5. Head is sent to Machine Shop with Brand New Valves to be installed and fixed.
6. Head is Completed and we try to get the Car running this Weekend with no luck. The Car will not start.

I don't know what to do anymore. I spend the whole day working on the POS jsut to end up at another Dead End. The Car will just not start. Everything is plugged in, everything that needs Power to start the Motor has Power going to it, Fuses are all good, and the Timing SHOULD be O.K. I say should because we were able to get the Timing correct on the Cam Gears but we can't get the damn Crankshaft Pulley off to check the Timing Mark there. Tomorow we're gonna go at the Pulley again and see if we can take it off but my Friend who did the Timing in the first place swears up and down and knows for a fact that the Timing was Dead On.

I don't know what more to do. I still have to do a Compression Test but thats only gonna tell me Two things.

1. If all 4 Cylinders are making Correct Compression, then that is not the problem and I'm still fucked.

2. If all 4 Cylinders, or 1 or 2, do not have Compression, then I have a bigger problem where something in the Block is Damaged and then I'm REALLY fucked.

Remember, I have no more Money left to spend to Fix the Car. I'm still paying $350 a Month for a Car Loan and another $350 a Month for Car Insurance. I'm basically paying for a Car that is Broken and cannot be driven and has
35K worth of parts inside and out.

I have run out of ideas. If I can't get this thing running Tommorow, I'm gonna start stripping the entire Car and selling each Part for ridiculously cheap Prices just to get rid of it ASAP. When I have the Shell remaining, I will just do the World a favor and have it sent to a Junkyard where I will PAY to watch it get turned into a little Cube of Scrap Metal. With that Money I make selling parts I can use that to pay off some of the Car.

My other Idea is to try to sell the Motor (again at a ridiculously cheap price) and flip that Motor around and buy a stock B16 or GSR. Just keep the simple Bolt on Mods. I'll then either try to sell the Car or keep it and keep it stock.

If anyone can help me please reply. If there is anymore troubleshooting I can do, anything I am missing, please let me know. I have completely lost all hope and need some serious ******* help.

Thank you,
Anthony
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Did a Compression Test and the results are in.

Fromt Distributor to Cam Gears
0 - 0 - 30 - 0

The Tester being used MAY have been fucked up. I rented it from a nearby Auto Zone and my friend said to not rely on those results. If there was that little Compression I would be able to spin my Crank with a Socket very easily, right? Because when I do do it, Its a little hard at first.

Im going to ahve to try another Tester and see what happens. But if that is the case and I am not getting any Compression, what the hell do it do next and what could be causing this?
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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0-0-30-0...wtf, Dude your seriously doing something wrong. I think you should have a professional look at your car.
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Nope, its not being done wrong. Instead of being an asshat you would have read that the Cmopression Tester may be defective.

I don't need a ******* professional to check my Compression deuce bag
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Wow, I hope that tester is screwed, because with compression tests like that I would be inclined to ask if you remembered to put rings on the pistons, or valves in the head.. hehe (Trying to be uplifting here, not a dig on you)

But the real question I have is, how are you getting the timing belts to shred like that? I recommend using the Honda method of tightening the belts next time. Tighter is not more better in this case. The tensioner is more than enough for the engine design; in other words there is an intended amount of play on the belt by design.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Well, we figured out what the problem was. We first tried adjusting the Valve Lash and replacing the Spark Plugs because they were SOAKED in gas and were Damaged. The Car sounded like it wanted to start but it sounded like the Timing was off. . . . .which it was. Timing uptop at the Cam Gears were perfect but at the bottom at the Crankshaft Pulley it was off by about 2 Teeth.

We took the Head off and sprayed some Brake Cleaner into the Intake and Exhaust Ports to Test for any Leaks. We did get some Leaks, actually the Valves were leaking pretty bad.

So it looks like what had happened in the first place was that the Timing WAS always Correct in the first place and that the Valve Lash would have just needed to be adjusted. Since me and my Bro-in-Law figured the Timing WAS off and checked it, all we were actually doing is getting the Timing Off and ******* **** up

The Head is at the Machine Shop now and they said that if the Valves aren't really fucked up that bad, thye can cut them and fix them so they set right in the Head. All this will ONLY cost $125. Thats pretty good and I am willing to spend it. BUT . . . . if some of the Valves are too damaged to be fixed, I would need to replace them. That will suck because these are brand New Supertech Valve Springs and I don't think JHPUSA will sell them seperately. If not I still have about 12 Omni Power Valves (Valves being used when the Timing Belt Broke) that MAY be in good condition. I'll give them to the Machine Shop and see if they are OK to be used.

All in all I hope everything goes well. At least now we know what the problem is and know that it is fixable. Theres a VERY good possibility that I will remain in the Scene. . . . . . I hope.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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No offense, but with luck like that, I would wash my hands of that car and start a new project.

Did you do a valve adjustment? Mis-adjusted valves can leave valves open even at TDC, which would cause results like that.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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No, a Valve Adjustment was never done . . . at FIRST. We did the Valve Adjustment Today but it was too late. The Timing was way off and by the time the Adjustments were made to the Valves, it was too late.

I wish I could jsut wash my hands of the Car, but unforunately it is not that easy. First off, noone would by the Car in the shape it is in now. If someone was to buy it it would be for a very cheap price which I would not accept. If the Car was running and running mint, noone would probably give me the Money I want for it.

You also have to understand I ahve a Loan on this Car also so I would want to get at least what ever is left to pay off the Car,if I was to sell it. And I doubt I would ever see 7-9K to Pay it off, or the 12K I would want for the Car.

Oh well, I'll just have to keep it thats all.
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