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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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How important is it to use Honda brand antifreeze instead of another brand? I looked in the manual and it says to only use the Honda brand, but is this just Honda wanting more money or is there a real reason? Thanks
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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You have to use anti-freeze that is phosphate and silicate free otherwise you'll wear out the shaft seal on the water pump. That's why Honda recommends their ****.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 06:21 PM
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You have to use anti-freeze that is phosphate and silicate free otherwise you'll wear out the shaft seal on the water pump. That's why Honda recommends their ****.
not to mention asbestos/paper compound headgaskets.. proper mix is also an important factor..
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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Thanks, that's all I needed to know
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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they sell that **** at pep boys or kragens. its called dex-cool and its orange. save yur money that **** is 5$ a gallon there. peace
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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The Honda stuff is only 10 bucks. The new stuff we have is good for 60000 miles. Part # is OL999-9001. It's all premixed also.

Good Luck!!
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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I use Havoline Dex-Cool exclusively in all my motors. Yeah, $5 bucks at Wal-Mart or Target. Hey, save $5 you can buy yourself a value meal at McDonalds.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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i take the new pre-mixed honda antifreeze and add about 1L or water to it.

works really well......the temp guage doesnt go up much more than 1/4 of the way.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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premixed..perfect. 1/2 gallon antifreeze and 1/2 water. So the tru cost is 20$ per gallon for the antifreee at honda!! GET DEX-COOL
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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You guys that like Dex-Cool at least need to be aware of my old thread on the subject: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=194103

If you get into problems, don't say no one warned you!

I have finished a complete top end rebuild on one of my 1997 VORTEC V-8's because DexCool attacked the silicon in the intake manifold gasket and started to delaminate my head gasket.

I started to break down my second 1997 Vortec This evening. DexCool skewered me .... Big Time

Your experiences hopefully will be different. I hope honda used a different silicone elastomer. BTW the metals were pristine, it just attacked the seals in my engines.


FleetCharge is a low silicate, no phosphate, nitrite stabilized "conventional" antifreeze. Its $6.99 a gallon here and is red/purple in color. It's intended for Class 8 diesel trucks. (Semi's) I believe it is the best chemistry on the market.

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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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Dexcool is supposedly silicate free. It is red, using a nitrite type of aluminum corrosion inhibitor. I overheated one day and had to put in some green type shell antifreeze and will probably switch back to Honda type.
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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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The Honda stuff is only 10 bucks. The new stuff we have is good for 60000 miles. Part # is OL999-9001. It's all premixed also.

Good Luck!!
ha, i hate my ONLY local dealer. they want $15 (+ tax) for it. that's really what this thread is about - should i spend $5 or $15 on antifreeze. but i guess i'll grin and bear it and fork out the $15. Thanks
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 08:17 AM
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In reply to Gruvy Tune,

Dexcool is silicate and phosphate free. It is organic acid stabilized. Nitrites are ONLY in the heavy duty version (I forgot what DexCool called it), mandated by Catepillar Diesel because of documented cylinder liner cavitation corrosion damage with the original Dexcool. Cummins then demanded that a Silicate additive package be added to DexCool if used in their engines. Silicates have not been added to the base or heavy duty DexCool version yet to the best of my knowledge.

The original did not contain nitrites. Its all in the links in my posts above. Particularly in the Pencool links.

NEVER ever mix DexCool with any other formulation. It causes precipitate dropout and sludging also documented in the links in the posts above.

I guess you guys can guess I got burnt bad by DexCool.

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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The Honda Type II Antifreeze should NOT, I repeat NOT be mixed. It is pre-mixed for a reason. If you DO want to run the Type II coolant, then be sure to completely flush out your system of all the old coolant and all water.

Honda made it pre-mixed for a reason. If you want to mix stuff, stick with the old coolant part number, CU08730. $16.00 per gallon, suggested retail.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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working at honda kicks ***.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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The Honda Type II Antifreeze should NOT, I repeat NOT be mixed. It is pre-mixed for a reason. If you DO want to run the Type II coolant, then be sure to completely flush out your system of all the old coolant and all water.

Honda made it pre-mixed for a reason. If you want to mix stuff, stick with the old coolant part number, CU08730. $16.00 per gallon, suggested retail.
Can the Type II antifreeze be mixed with Red Line WW? Or should I use the older stuff to mix with WW?

And the local Honda dealer wants $15 for the type II (pre mixed) antifreeze. one more reason Honda dealers SUCK
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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I'll stick with the Honda stuff

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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"Can the Type II antifreeze be mixed with Red Line WW? Or should I use the older stuff to mix with WW?"


Good question!
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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And the local Honda dealer wants $15 for the type II (pre mixed) antifreeze. one more reason Honda dealers SUCK

Ok bud calm down. Not all dealers mark up there Listed prices!! Just a few. The New Pre-mixed stuff is around 10 bucks list. You have too remember each dealer can set there prices Higher or lower then suggested retail price!!

A little tip to some of you that hate the dealers with high prices. If a dealer is far away from the Parts depot most likely there prices will be Higher!! Some dealers can send there own drivers too the parts depot. Witch in turns does not cost them freight on the parts!! Witch makes there prices cheaper. Why do you think Man Honda in Ct has cheap prices. The Parts depot is close by!! All in all though, dealers, any dealer, Ford, Chevy, Toyota Etc, can make what ever price they want. Higher or lower!!
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