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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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I really need help! I just broke a bolt tightening one of my cam caps after puting in my cams. Its broke off inside the head. What do I do!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? Can this bolt be backed out? Can I go without it? Someone please help me!!! I have been without a car for 3 months and I finally got the money for this LS motor. Seriously, please help me guys!!!!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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bump, please help my out guys!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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You'll need a drill and a screw extractor, or EZ-Out, or whatever name you want to call it. Do yourself a favor and don't run the car without fixing it. And next time, please use a torque wrench on important bolts like that.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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cool, i will try that. I didnt know that those had a specific torque tho
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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everything on the car has a specific torque, but 95% of them arent used much.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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I tend to use the torque wrench on anything under the hood. And suspension mounting bolts. Sometimes you will be suprised as to how little torque will hold things together.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Geez Andy that was head #2. Although head one was not you fault.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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I drove my beater gen2 LS with a broken cam bolt for a year without any problems. Not that it means anything but I just wanted to add that bit.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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cool, but this motor will be under boost so I dont want to chance it.

Tony, I know it sucks ***. You want to help me get it out?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Yeah you def want to get it out. If you cant remove it with an EZ out, your going to have to take it to a shop. Unless you comfortable drilling and retapping it with a heli coil (which will prob cost more for the tools than just taking it to a shop).

Lesson learned, use a torque wrench king kong.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Go get the right size easy-out from sears. Is it broke off level or is it down in there?
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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If you have time to work on your car maybe you could find the time to ship out the hondata and ecu you owe me
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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i broke the same bolt torquing one down with my snap-on torque wrench,so i know the setting was right,it was just a bitch bolt
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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oh yea i used an ez out,and it came right out
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Getting ready to try it in a few minutes.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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worked! Back in business!
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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i avoid using easy outs. just screw/bolt extractor.. i think size #2 used this about 6 times, never failed yet. I used an easy out once and it broke in the bolt, had to cnc the bolt out.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doublejz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i avoid using easy outs. just screw/bolt extractor.. i think size #2 used this about 6 times, never failed yet. I used an easy out once and it broke in the bolt, had to cnc the bolt out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

isnt it the same ****?
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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I currently have 2 broken cam cap bolts in my head...no problems after over 7kmiles. I wouldve gotten them out but i was in a hurry to get the motor together. Besides...its a beater so i wasnt too worried.

Ive had to get them out of other heads before. The easiest way to get it out is to buy a small hex head bit that fits onto a ratchet. Then find a drill bit thats barely smaller than the bit. Drill down about 1/4 inch into the bolt. Take a hammer and gently tap the hex bit into the hole you just made. Then you just put the ratchet on it and back it out. I know it sounds ghetto but ive done it numerous times(on other things as well) and its always worked fine. The first time i did it i was worried that id expletive up the threads in the head...but they were fine. If you have a drill bit then all youll have to get is the hex bit...which can be gotten for like $1.75-2.50 at your local auto parts store.

Im glad you got it out though man. Better safe than sorry...especially on an engine that would see boost
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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they do the same thing, but the one i posted has more metal = stronger atleast thats how i see it
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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my friend broke the bolt on the end of my ls head (aka torque monkey) , the one outside of the valve cover. I haven`t worried about it
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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those cam holder bolts are important though, especially with hondas and the high rpms. Theres alot of force on the cams. some may not worry about it while others know better. Thats my $.02
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Old May 21, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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i just broke one today.....
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