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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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I am getting a CEL it throws a 1 code which is primary o2 sensor, I went ahead and replaced the o2 sensor but I still keep getting the CEL, anyone have any advice on what i should do next, this is on a 90 civic with a pr3 computer and a b16. Also the CEL comes on and stays on even before i start the car, i've un hooked the battery and the ecu and then conected everything after installing the new o2 sensor and it still throws a code. please help.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Get your battery tested. THe same thing happened to me and it ended up being the battery.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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How could it be the battery? I don't see the logic
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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I didn't either, but that's what it was, after I replaced the o2 sensor. I guess the o2 sensor wasn't getting enough voltage and the ECU saw it as a bad signal? Just trying to help.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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see your point but the motor cranks over just fine and it even starts, but just runs shitty
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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That's what mine did, too.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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anyone else have an idea
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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check wiring
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:18 AM
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make sure you dont' have any exhaust leaks...
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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here's the main things to check before you go ahead and change your battery, I really dont see the logic behind that...but who knows sometimes things dont have logic

could be fuel pressure...swap your fuel pressure regulator
check the ground on the thermostat housing...

those are the two main things

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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why would it be the fpr?
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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battery is less than 2 months old and i just checked it, 11.83 volts. is the o2 wire supposed to have power running thru it, how does the ECU know to throw a code is it when voltage drops?
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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not shure...just one of them things, the o2 gives reading as to how it's burning, maybe it's reading too much fuel, triggering a code...honestly I am not shure but I know it has something to do with throwing code1 sometimes

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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no the O2 has no power running through it...it 'creates' (bad choice of words, I know) power ranging between 0-1volts and returns it to ECU....well if the o2 is not sending anything back it's clearly dead, flags it as a code1

check the thermostat ground

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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are you talking about a ground strap?
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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battery is less than 2 months old and i just checked it, 11.83 volts. is the o2 wire supposed to have power running thru it, how does the ECU know to throw a code is it when voltage drops?
A good battery at rest should have about 12.66 VOlts, if it is only 2 months old and it only has 11.8 volts, there is either a problem with the battery, alternator, or ground. And a 4 wire O2 sensor does have power going to it for the heater.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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do you have BOTH o2 sensors installed and wired properly??
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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it could possibly a problem if you have a A/F gauge. My car does the exact same thing. The A/F gauge is taking the 1 volt required to send the message to the ECU.

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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I am getting a CEL it throws a 1 code which is primary o2 sensor, I went ahead and replaced the o2 sensor but I still keep getting the CEL, anyone have any advice on what i should do next, this is on a 90 civic with a pr3 computer and a b16. Also the CEL comes on and stays on even before i start the car, i've un hooked the battery and the ecu and then conected everything after installing the new o2 sensor and it still throws a code. please help.
did you replace the right sensor? maybe you repalced the secondary O2 sensor?

how did you tell the two appart???

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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i replaced the first 1st o2 from the manifold, just thinking that it was the wrong one i switched the wires to make sure, also the battery was at 11.8 something volts with the car not running, i start it and it reads about 13 volts. I don't have a a/f ratio gauge so i don't see that as being a problem. This happened after I did the ITR manifold swap, if that has anything to do with it.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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i replaced the first 1st o2 from the manifold, just thinking that it was the wrong one i switched the wires to make sure, also the battery was at 11.8 something volts with the car not running, i start it and it reads about 13 volts. I don't have a a/f ratio gauge so i don't see that as being a problem. This happened after I did the ITR manifold swap, if that has anything to do with it.
so you swaped an ITR exhaust manifold?

???

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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no the intake manifold, sorry i should have remembered
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 06:17 AM
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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If the car is only at 13 volts running, you need to go get your charging system checked out. Pep Boys and Autozone will do this for free.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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it varries from 13 - 15 volts if i remember correctly at least that is what the turbo timer reads
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