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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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i was wondering a few quistions...

1. how much difference would there be in performance if u put a intake . and a catback.

2.will there be a noticible difference? and will there be any effect on the engine or anything harmful to the car?

3. when people say they intalled a intake, what exactly did they install (specifacally)?

4. (FINAL Q ) i want to upgrade my future teg, or a civic (get in oct.) but dont want to spen too much over 1000$. what mods should i do, performace wise, that would make the car faster?

i know catbacks are around 300$. thats 700 left over, and exterior mods wouldnt be much (clear corners, may paint rims gunmetal, grill, and other small stuff).

thanks alot guys, and incase any1 was wondering, im a freshmen and only have a permit, so im still learnin but .....TIME=

same thread in integra, just put it here to get more attention
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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For 1000 get intake, header, exhaust, that'll give you a nice lil increase and better gas mileage to boot.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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1. There is not that much of a difference, but you should be able to notice something.

2. Intake and exhaust will most likely not cause any problems

3. when someone installs an intake, they install an intake tube, which runs from the throttle body, out of the engine bay, and places the filter (the other part) in the front bumper. The intake, in most cases, is only the piping and the filter.

4. like said above, intake, header, and exhaust would cost somewhere around $1000 if you spend your money wisely.

A word of advise, buy good, quality parts from proven companies in the first place. This will get you products that last longer and usually make a little more power.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Ahh screw IHE, do a homemade turbo setup if you get a civic. http://www.homemadeturbo.com Cheaper and more power w/ money left over heres a quick summary

t-25 75
hf mani and adapter plate 50
intercooler sidemount 25
custom DP. like anywhere form 25-150 depends on if you make it or if someone else does.
boost gauge 35
SMC 2 (fuel controler) 110
DSM 450s 100
BOV 35
IC piping and water/oil lines/clamps 100
Clutch 150 (buy used w/ low miles)
Boost round 7lbs. It will be fun and you still have money left over!

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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blaze45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ahh screw IHE, do a homemade turbo setup if you get a civic. http://www.homemadeturbo.com Cheaper and more power w/ money left over heres a quick summary

t-25 75
hf mani and adapter plate 50
intercooler sidemount 25
custom DP. like anywhere form 25-150 depends on if you make it or if someone else does.
boost gauge 35
SMC 2 (fuel controler) 110
DSM 450s 100
BOV 35
IC piping and water/oil lines/clamps 100
Clutch 150 (buy used w/ low miles)
Boost round 7lbs. It will be fun and you still have money left over!

Blaze</TD></TR></TABLE>

Consider the questions hes asking. He's obviously just getting into cars so a homeade turbo isnt in his ballpark. i/h/e is a good easy way to get into it.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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i asked this same question of toyota people about 2 years ago. and they told me the same thing everyone else is here, which is excellent advise. intake, headers, exhaust. gives u that little power boost so yur car is faster than the next kids moms stock civic, gives a tone u like, which makes you stand out, and wil normally make yur car look cooler too. my next piece of advise would be to go to your local tuning shop, make a couple friends, and just b.s. with them. people who have been in the game for any time longer than you will usually be happy to help, and if they're not, they're not worth your time. but, do not become a hastle in these guys lives, they will help you, but not if u follow them around like a stray dog...
good luck with whatever becomes of your ride
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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ok. so its

intake, catback and headers

will there be any negative effects after installin like gas mileage and stuff?

what do HEADERS exasctly do?

so there wont be a big difference in performance? just a few more horses, better sound, and more confidance lol.

but, really thats all im looking for. a few more horses, but i can also just get glasspacks instead of a exaust for sound since there isnt a really big performance difference.

man, 1G and only a few horses, what did u guys do after u did the intake, header, exaust?
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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spray n2o in her. cheap.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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im with 88crxintegra zex all the way cheap(500$or less) most power when you only got 1000 to waste.
zex 50hp with 75 shot?=500
headers 8hp = 300
intake 7hp = 200 all done and you spend 16 times less then me and you could beat me!!
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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keep your car N/A or install a turbo and if it's a huge turbo than run nitrous oxide.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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damnn
the next step cant be turbo can it?

man, so its about 10hp gain with the 1G mods. what difference would there be in acceleration?
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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i/h/e combined can net between 10-20 hp. Its an easy way for a beginner to get into car modding. 99% of people started out this way. Nitrous is by far the chapest bang for the buck, however with nitrous its either on or off and if you keep it on a lot the cost of refilling adds up along with the stress on the motor. I prefer to always have consistant power for a daily driver. Its a matter of what you want to do and how big your budget is. I'd do a lot of researching on modifying your car. Buy some books such as "Civic Duty" and "Honda/Acura Engine Performance" they give a good basic overview of things you can do and pricing. But for a beginner and with 1,000 I'd go either i/h/e or nitrous. Nitrous will be faster but theres not much you learn from slapping a bottle on. Its up to you man. As far as accel goes you'll lose a little low end but once you get up to 3-4k plus you'll feel the most differance. And with i/h/e you can expect about +2-5mpg. I get on average +4mpg with i/h/e.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joe_bocc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. There is not that much of a difference, but you should be able to notice something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i beg to differ it didint do much low but it added 15 mph top end
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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i hate to disagree with some of these guys, but i would not go with nitrous. yeah, the bang for the buck idea is a great one. but here's another thing to consider. you're a 16 year old, drivin around a piped civic, so your automatically gonna attract attention. it is illegal in most states to have a compressed gas in your car unless you have a license for it. personally, i dunno if you wanna deal with the pooooolice. and anytime you have another kid in the car with you, thats just another cop decoy, they love that shiot. and i know i got pulled over at least 10 times for just my exhaust, and i've been searched 4 times just on the fact that i was 16 or 17. personally man, im stickin to what i said originally, i/h/e. and as i said before, make sum friends who have been in it a while.
second of all, no, the next step is not turbo. there are so many things in your engine that you can replace to make it faster. but now yur talkin bout' gettin into sum serious dough. good luck dude
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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yeah, i never wanted to further than that.
im never getting turbo or nitruous, im only 15/16.

so, i think ill just get the headers, exausta and intake.

but do I need ANYTHING ELSE?
i mean, all i do is just order some intake, headers, and exaust for a good price and a good maker. then go to a shop, and they will install it?
dont i need any other small parts, or conditioning for the car? can the car handle such a drastic change?

and, i was thinking not to get a exasust, since it will atract cops cuz of sound. plus, its sounds really ricey sometimes.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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get nitrous...
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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i saw on importparts.com..

kamikaze chrome header (civic ex) - 245$

but there is no intake and exaust for a 96-00 civic.. y??

also, answer q. from post dircetly above...
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, i never wanted to further than that.
im never getting turbo or nitruous, im only 15/16.

so, i think ill just get the headers, exausta and intake.

but do I need ANYTHING ELSE?
i mean, all i do is just order some intake, headers, and exaust for a good price and a good maker. then go to a shop, and they will install it?
dont i need any other small parts, or conditioning for the car? can the car handle such a drastic change?

and, i was thinking not to get a exasust, since it will atract cops cuz of sound. plus, its sounds really ricey sometimes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

To answer your questions...

A good header, exhaust and intake will come with all the parts you need. However, you might need to pick up, say, a new gasket for the exhaust manifold when you bolt your header on, or have your header bolted on. Also, you might need a new exhaust manifold donut gasket. But these things should be taken care of by a shop if you have it installed professionally. A lot of places will sell you a complete kit and install it for you also, so you might want to look into that... some places will charge you extra if you bring them parts that you didn't buy from them.

You don't need to do any other minor things; installing these three parts isn't going to make the car fall apart. If you want I'd recommend doing minor maintenance stuff at the same time, like new spark plugs, etc.

You need to pick an exhaust that has a subtle tone. Make sure you get one with a resonator! Glasspacks are loud and will not be subtle, but Magnaflow makes a nice, quiet exhaust from what I've heard. Systems like the Apex'i N1 are usually ear-bleeders.

HTH
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Really?! there nothing else to do eccept for spark plug change, and other minor maintenance.
man, i never knew tuning was so easy... i mean all u do is buy, and pay some one to install and BOOM... u got more hp and a faster car.

but..... is it worth it? im not going to do more performance mods after i/e/h. so these 3 things good only to keep going, or will it be enough to stop and enjoy?

and lastly, whats a good price for a shop to sell the parts AND installation? who does that stuff? menieki?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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that stuff isnt going to help you out that much if you really want to feel some power you need nos, turbo, or bigger engines. or lots of cash for N/A. if i was in your position id save all the money i could for a year or so since your younq and have plenty of time. buy something thats going to be really worth it like a engine swap, turbo kit, ect. thats the smartest thing to do. while your saving you can read read read. after a year of getting to know cars you will know what to do, how to do it. so then you can save your hard earned cash from going to some guy so he can but some bolt-ons on your car. wait save and learn... you wont regret it trust me. i know the feeling of "i have cash i have to buy something for my car NOW!!!"
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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the intake do yourself if you walk in doing beginner stuff theyll take you for a beginner and destroy you on the price the intake is the easiest thing to do next to a shift **** and theyll charge you about 100 bucks

as for the exhaust /headers if you wanna learn something do it yourself not a big deal on the exhaust the headers if their one piece are a little tricky
just get a grinder/cutoff wheel cut old bolts out and rip out old exhaust but unbolt the headers from the motor get them out and then work backwards with new hardware

but thats just me i hate paying for something and having to pay the same amount to get it installed
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Why not check out the classified section here on Honda-Tech to see if you can find any used parts, such as a header, cat-back system or intake. In my experience (mostly in the V-8 world) used parts usually cost 25%-40% less than new, and certain items, like my list above have no moving parts to break so they can usually be quickly inspected to determine their condition. Good Luck!
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Don't think it is because you are young or drive an import that the police mess with you. I am 32, my daily driver is a 2000 Ford Taurus and I get pulled over at least once a week! They have the idea that just because it is 1:00 a.m. you either have to be drunk or up to no good to be out. The best thing is when they ask to see my license and I have not gone to the bank with my deposit from my business. A couple grand in your wallet really gets them pissed when they can't find anything to bust you for!!! So basically don't sweat it, it is going to happen for the rest of your life!
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Well, u see i cant really install anything my self. i think Toyospr has a good thought,
just wait, and see what happens

Man, u guys are saying i/h/e arnt worth the time and money if u dont do more stuff?

It seemed too good to be true, just getting faster car with 1G. i would have bougth the i/h/e right away and enjoyed from there.

Does anyone here only have a intake and exaust? and is it worth it? or am i just wasting my time on h-t?
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