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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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would there be any benefit at all in puttin gsr cams in your b16 motor? motor has intake and full exhuast... 4-1 carb legal with 2.5 inch piping its a 1st gen b16
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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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The GSR cams are definitely better than 1st gen b16 cams. Probably good for 3-5hp.
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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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Just to let you know, I have a B16A with '95 GSR cams and felt a diffrence. I had the B16 cams in first, then I put the GSR's in and it pulls alot better when Vtec comes on at 5500rpm's.


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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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well i put in some GSR cams and all it is now it BOG city.... literally the car does not move ... i raced a DX and lost...? any ideas man? this really blows....
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Old Jan 29, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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you installled them wrong
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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just get some R cams and R manifold you will like it better.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:40 AM
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well i put in some GSR cams and all it is now it BOG city.... literally the car does not move ... i raced a DX and lost...? any ideas man? this really blows....
Fuel problem maybe? I saw a B16A rebuilt, CTR Pistons, and GSR cams. Once the cams were installed it bogged and hessitated. There car still doesn't run right, but they hooked up a FPR, and both the gauges they tried were either broken or the FP was really at 15-20 and should have been 40-50.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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where's you VTEC at? too low will cause issues.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:12 AM
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4800 its very low i know... but it bogs through out the WHOLE rpm range vtec or not.... and its a gas hog now.... literally 35 miles and i used a half tank
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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It sounds like your motor is internally stock, but are you using anything for fuel correction and VTEC x-over (maybe a VAFC)?? Just going up to a GSR cam shouldn't affect your motor to the point that it's bogging... I would check to see that you have them installed right... being off by a tooth would cause your problems so I would check everything... Bring you crank to TDC and check you sprockets, are they at top dead too??? If your sprockets check out good then i'm willing to bet if you have a VAFC or something, that is where your problem is coming from... If you have the money I would still just go with a 2000+ ITR/CTR IN cam and a GSR EX is cool.... You notice a big difference over those GSR's but you'll have too bump up your VTEC x-over... The CTR's normally like their VTEC around 5200-5700rpm so if you don't have a VTEC controller you'll most likely want one.. Just my $0.02... Good Luck
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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4800 its very low i know... but it bogs through out the WHOLE rpm range vtec or not.... and its a gas hog now.... literally 35 miles and i used a half tank
I just had a similar problem. My car bogged horribly, and I drank 1/2 a tank on my way to school. Is your car smoking and stinking horribly of unburned gas? I had an injector stick open and it was dumping fuel into the #4 cylinder...Check that out.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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sound likes you installed them wrong. I would check the timing belt to make sure its in time.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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try some VP injector clearner if you have not solved the problem yet...
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Well, your vtec should come on at 5400 not 4800. Are you using the gsr ecu on a b16? I tried that and it drove like crap! So, I put the P30 ECU in and it runs great. You might also look to see if you have everything at TDC. Check your timing when you're done. My timing is set at 18degress BTDC.


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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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its an obd 0 ecu its chipped no idea what program ran great with b16 cams.... also btw you set both cams to TOP rite like both arrows sticking stright up cuz its weird i will try drawing a diagram and upload it here to show you what im talking about ....
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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Withe the #1 piston at TDC, the two marks on the cam gears should line up perfectly, with the Camshaft sprockets "UP." There's your problem right there! You've seriously retarded or advanced the timing!
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Yea, just as I said before, don't just go off the up arrows as a reference on the sprockets.... I'm just double checking what you did... Did you set the crank to TDC then check the marks?? That's what we are really worried about right now... You wanna make sure that the bottom end is set at top dead then compare the head to it... If you set the bottom end to TDC and the ticks on the sprockets look like you have them pictured then most likely your IN cam is retarded one tooth or you EX cam is advanced one... Good Luck.. Peace
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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well you can tell its boggin it sounds more of the intake tho cuz the exhuast sounds the same but you know that low pitched sound im talking about like booooooooggghh ya both cams are pointing DIRECTLY UP but those lil lines on the side arent lining up pefectly....
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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both cams are pointing DIRECTLY UP but those lil lines on the side arent lining up pefectly....
Okay now I just want to make sure that you are saying it is like this when the #1 piston at TDC... If that's the case then the cams are off... Don't worry about the arrows... Just make sure they are facing upwards and be MOST concerned about getting the ticks even with each other... If they aren't lining up when the bottom end is at TDC that's ur problem... Just fix that and you should be fine... Peace
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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got it fixed intake cam was off a tooth
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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just to clarify for others in the future, the picture drawn above is incorrect. it is drawn correctly, but the cams are not aligned. there are two marks on each gear. ALL 4 marks must line up (use a ruler to check). the arrows wont point up exactly, but they should be in the general direction of up. i hope this makes sense. just trying to prevent future mistakes.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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makes sense

just to clarify for others in the future, the picture drawn above is incorrect. it is drawn correctly, but the cams are not aligned. there are two marks on each gear. ALL 4 marks must line up (use a ruler to check). the arrows wont point up exactly, but they should be in the general direction of up. i hope this makes sense. just trying to prevent future mistakes.
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