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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Im thinking about spraying a 100 shot but i dont know if my motor can handle it. going to use 109 octane and tweak the timing a little do you think my stock oem parts can handle that much of a squezzzzz.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (90_red_teg)

I don't know much about Honda engines as far as power handling, but in general stock 4cyl engines shouldn't be sprayed with more than a 50 wet shot, if you want reliability, and to be able to drive home from the track. If you want any more do 75 but I think a 100 will be too much for stock internals. You may get away with it once or twice but it's just a matter of time.

Now if you were driving a stang and wanted to hit a 100 shot in it, I'd say go for it, but I'd never do it in a 4banger like your Integra or my Neon.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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yes it willl but what motor do you have again?
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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ls vtec why
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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I think i know what will happen !!!!!
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomm mmmmm!!!!!!
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (90_red_teg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90_red_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls vtec why
</TD></TR></TABLE>because hondas are notorious for snaping stock rods, do a 50-75 wet or direct port setup and you'll be fine, i think 100 is pushing your luck
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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even with the fuel and timing moved
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90_red_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even with the fuel and timing moved</TD></TR></TABLE>moved? like are you going to run hondata or uberdata? still i'd say 100shot is pushing it, honda rods are very weak and good for about 220-250hp
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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i have a friend that is running a 200 shot on a
oem parts built ls vtec"built by me"he runs 90 lbs of fuel pressure and the timing is retared 6
degrees.

the car weighs 1810 with him in it and in a 1/8 it ran 7.09 @ 103 w/a 1.5 60 ft and that was with the big heavy *** si rims on it with 26x8x15 slicks,he has since then bought my bogart pro 4's 26x10x15,and has yet to run because of the tracts have shut down up here.he has never got to run in the 1/4 but if i had to guess i'd say around high 10's.

for those of you that want to flame,come down here and you can see for your self.the car is down right nasty.

if you have enought fuel to feed the fire,then
your motor will last longer,but eventually will fail,even with built internals.because of the wear it puts on the bottom end.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (90_red_teg)

It's all about getting the proper amount of fuel when using N2O. Gasoline acts as a coolant in the combustion process when nitrous and fuel are being burned. Running lean and not having enough fuel is asking for severe detonation and ending up with melted valves or holes in your pistons.


I don't feel like getting into the combustion process when n20 is being burned, to keep it short and sweet, make sure it is getting ample fuel.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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It's perfectly possible. I know many people who have had success doing it. Like hybrid honda said: make sure there is enough fuel.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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eh i'm not really into nitrous but whateva, like i said I wouldn't do it
edit: oh wait i didnt say that oh well that what i was getting at
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (90_red_teg)

i'd say just do it !!
whats the worst that could happen
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thats my thought...
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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Its very risky if you don't know what you are doing. And friend of mine used to run a 100shot on a stock b16a all day long. I think he made over 100 passes with it, and that doesn't include the street racing part either .
He used to run 12.2 at the track all day long I don't remember the mph. Some of you might of seen it at Atco raceway. black ef hatch on slicks and gutted.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (goforbroke)

Well, it depends mostly on your pistons.what compression are you running?
If you are running pr4's(with is about 9.8 comp.)and good tunning, its very possible.Anything higher i would not risk it.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (90_red_teg)

NIGHTMARES BRO
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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THIS PICTURE IS A FAKE, ITS PHOTOSHOP WORK. that will never happen with notorious. especially 100 shot. Look you can clearly see that the exhaust manifold is still attached, I was watching fast and the furious, the guy squeezed notorious and he blew the bolts right off the intake manifold. Ive seen it happen in real life too, once my friend did it too. Ive squeezed up to 175 shot, and nothing even happened. not even a screw fell of the manifold. But if you want real power bro get a blower, Jeckson Recing makes some of the best stuff out there. Ive seen some monsters bro. Btw if you need help on setting up the system I can help, its simple, the only thing is you might need a FMU. I also have alot of Old mob movies we can watch them if you want later, maybe get some pizza and invite some girls over so we can kiss them scamming style. hehehehe.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 02:11 AM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (RazbiratRacing)

god, looks like honda-tech is getting overrun by dumbasses..

if you put that much effect and money to tune the motor to run 100 shots, with retarded timing and all that to handle the shot.

what the hell would happen if you not on the bottle? yes, that's right, the car is gonna drive a flaming piles of sh-t.


the only thing i can agree with you, mr. finland is the turbo/sc idea.
i wouldn't pick up jAckson racing's sh-t, go custom turbo
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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thats why you go and get a timming **** too adj your timming,
from the "****" pit.....
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (b18c-93)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RazbiratRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THIS PICTURE IS A FAKE, ITS PHOTOSHOP WORK</TD></TR></TABLE>

That picture isn't fake so me where it has been modified? then i will believe you

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c-93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> thats why you go and get a timming **** too adj your timming,
from the "****" pit.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would you want that i don't like the fact of having a **** to turn when i want to pull timing, how about just buy a MSD box that pulls timing under Boost or Spray or what ever have you
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99blackcivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Why would you want that i don't like the fact of having a **** to turn when i want to pull timing, how about just buy a MSD box that pulls timing under Boost or Spray or what ever have you </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that is what he was talking about, msd btm.. But i don't know if they make a ignition for nitrous??
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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Yeah
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Default Re: going to spray 100 shot. (Maireh Cunem)

Honda motors can handle 100 extra hp. People boost 10psi or more all the time on stock internals, just need mo fuel.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goforbroke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its very risky if you don't know what you are doing. And friend of mine used to run a 100shot on a stock b16a all day long. I think he made over 100 passes with it, and that doesn't include the street racing part either .
He used to run 12.2 at the track all day long I don't remember the mph. Some of you might of seen it at Atco raceway. black ef hatch on slicks and gutted.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know bart?
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94dxt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda motors can handle 100 extra hp. People boost 10psi or more all the time on stock internals, just need mo fuel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A big misconception is that a 100 shot equals 100 extra horsepower. The actual horsepower increase will depend on the mixture, the type of setup, the motor, the modifications, and just about everything else. Some friends and I just dyno'd a Prelude the other day with the usual bolt-on's and a single jet wet nitrous kit: with a 50 shot we averaged a 31 horsepower gain. With a 100 shot, we averaged a 63 horsepower gain. Just please be sure to double check the fuel and make sure you are getting enough.
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