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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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OK, I am about to start building some front strut bars for G2 cars both with and without ABS. My major question is in regards to the best place to mount the bar.

The Neuspeed bar for a Gen3 mounts to the upper a-arm mounts like this:


And the Neuspeed Gen2 bar mounts to the shock like this:

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Is there any advantage to either way of mounting?
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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If you mount it using the 3x bolts that attach to the shock mounting plate this will be alot stronger. If you mount it to the 2x uper control arm bolts then when heavy stresses are put through the bodyshell it may not hold up as well and could possibly damage the metal surrounding under extreme conditiond but using the strut mounting plate with the larger surface area it should be alot more rigid.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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On the second generation Integra, there are only 2 bolts that hold the strut mount to the body. That is where Neuspeed mounts on a G2. The newer (G3) Integra is the one mounted to the upper control arm.

I guess the real question is this:

Is it better to limit SIDE forces excerted on the upper control arm, or is it better to limit the UP forces excerted on the shock/spring?
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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I'm guessing that's a rhetorical question the answer obviously being that there's much more force coming in at the UCAs than through the strut. But why not make a plate that bolts to all four? I think that's what Mugen did.

Triangulation is key so look for a place to mount it to the firewall as well. And maybe brace the master cylinder while you're at it.

I wish the Neuspeed had a plate going from one UCA mount to the other.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Is it better to limit SIDE forces excerted on the upper control arm, or is it better to limit the UP forces excerted on the shock/spring?</TD></TR></TABLE>

UCA by far.

We don't have MacPherson struts.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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right here is a link to different bars..

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=760682

one of them bolts to the firewall as well.. this one seems to be the best design
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Remember that you are bracing the shocks in order to reduce lateral movement in the shocks and the UCA's. Personally I'd get a bar that bolts to all of them, and to the firewall.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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But the shocks themselves don't receive much lateral force, and therefor have little to no flexing.

In MacPherson struts this is completely different, as the shocks are the part of the suspension that receives the lateral force.

One of the advantages of double wishbone
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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i know the g2 re-enforces the control arm mount holes more than the strut mount holes. if its possible i would make a pair of bars for the front. one 3-point bar that mounts to the strut towers and the firewall, another that connects the 2 control arm mount holes. also a pair of rear bars, 1 that connects the two holes in the back of the trunk like an itr uses. another that connects the strut towers. 3point out back wouldnt hurt either.
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