My new build, first oil change oil today i found some shavings in my oil they where copper and the size of a period on your key board. I drained the oil threw a white t-shirt. I only found 5 of the flakes is this ok. the copper color is what scared me i have seen oil with a spun bearing it had millions of copper flakes, but i only had 5 i found

 

Did you check all of your bearing clearances? What kind of oil pressure do you have?

 

yes i checked all my clearances. i have 25 psi at idle warm and 90 when i rev it high.

 

How big are the flakes? I would not worrry about five little flakes, but if you see more then you know you may very well have a problem.

 

if they keep coming it would be cause for concern but if the oil looks clean on the next couple changes it was probably just regular break in debris

 

is it possible the last person that changed the oil used a copper sealant on the drain plug or something?

 

i was talking it over to a guy at work. I used copper seal on the head gasket lets hope thats what it is.

 

Thats most likely it. Sounds like you have pretty normal oil pressure, i wouldnt look too much farther into it. Just keep and eye on your pressure.

 

got problems the oil pressure dropped today my oil pump has blown into pieces. pulling the oil pan to look at the carnage this sucks. the oil pump or something actually got into the timing belt. it sounded like a shot gun

 

Is it a new pump? Or did you reuse the one that came out of the motor?

 

reused it but it was with in honda specs. The engine had nothing wrong with it when i built it i just wanted to put pistons and rods in it. It is a F22 if you read my sig you can see all the details. I think i need a fluidampr pulley

 

how many miles on this fresh rebuild? how sure are you it's a failed oil pump and not a failed bearing?

 

Do those oil pumps even have brass in them? I thought they were all aluminum geared

 

if there was "babbit" in the oil it was a bearing on it's way out due to lack of oil...do you have vtec? if so check the screen on the vtec solenoid...i bet there is copper flakes there too.

 

If it got down all the way to the copper, you should have had worse oil pressure or some sort of knocking i would think...

 

100 miles. I dont know what happen. i work at a machine shop i measured every thing 10x with the best equipment you can buy. took my time. I just dont know. I had good oil pressure when i fired it up. i used acl bearings. all my clearances where on the upper side of the factory specs but still with in spec. I think it is the factory dampener on the f22.

redzcstandardhatch told me that he blew up 3 oil pumps and 3 sets of main bearing then switch to a fluidampr and never had a problem

 

Are you running a stock damper pulley at least? I would agree with redzcstandardhatch about making sure you have at least a stock damper or if you have the money a fluidampr/ ati damper.

 

I had a stock h22 one on it. i dont think the damper looks right now and the rubber looks to be coming out of it has a wobble in it.It did not look like that when i installed it. i have the money to get a fluidamper. will be ordering as soon as i get time to see the out come of this mess. i got another good running f22 i may just hit it with a hone and put in the piston n rods