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Old May 23, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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Default FINAL:1st Gen b16 in a EG?

.lets put this question to rest..will a 1st gen b16 swap into a eg without any specail motor mounts? why cant you just bolt up a gsr tranny to a 1st gen b16a.. we all know a b16a2 will fit in peffectly fine. but i heard a b16a1 need a tranny conversion kit from hasport. hasports makes the EGB1 mount kit for 500$ that include hardware to convert the cable actuated clutches to hydraulic actuation.
The kit will work with the B16A, B17A, and B18A. POST UR THOUGHTS! please flaming on b16s...
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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Default Re: FINAL:1st Gen b16 in a EG? (wm5holla)

hey... i got a b16a1 into an eg 93 coupe w/ a gsr tranny. only different mount i used was the front driver side mount bracket from my ex motor. gsr tranny bolted right on, and they're hydro. the eg is made for hydro, so you don't need any kit from hasport, that's only if you're going to use a cable tranny.
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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Default Re: FINAL:1st Gen b16 in a EG? (mistake-2)

here, i wrote this, it should answer your questions...

source: http://www.hondaswap.com/swap/viewer.php?id=54

First Gen B16A into 5th Gen Civic


Overview:

In this article I will explain how it’s possible to put a First Gen B16A into your 92-95 Civic. First, it’s important to remember that this setup will be OBD1. The only difference with this swap is using the first Generation B16A long-block, which can be purchased from online distributors for around 400-600 dollars.

Next, you’ll need to find a hydro transmission, OBD1 ECU, OBD1 Distributor, and use your original OBD1 wiring harness.

Wiring:

As far as the wiring goes, if you have a VX or Si you’ll need to lengthen the wires for VTEC and add a wire and plug for the knock sensor if you’re running an ECU that looks for one (More on this later). You’ll also need to convert the 4-wire o2 sensor to 5-wire if you’re going with a VX harness. The CX, DX, and Si all use 5-wire O2 sensors that makes wiring easier for the remaining three models.

ECU:

I recommend a chipped p28 with skunk2 program when doing this swap. The ECU doesn’t look for a knock sensor so adding that wire isn’t necessary, plus you bypass all emissions equipment that the P30 (Del Sol VTEC) and P72 (GSR) ECU’s look for. Please note, the skunk2 p28 program runs extremely rich, so buy a VAFC and some dyno time to get the air/fuel ratio correct.

Transmission:

The S4C (99-00 Civic SI) transmission has perfect gearing for the torque-less B16A. However, a GSR, Type R, or even Del Sol VTEC transmission will all work as well. B-series axles will also be needed, either from a Del Sol VTEC, Civic Si, GSR, or Type R.

Long block:

To be specific, you’ll be using the first generation B16A found in JDM Civic SiR’s and JDM Integra XSi’s. First Generation B-series mounts from any Acura Integra or Del Sol VTEC will need to be found, while I would recommend ordering shift linkage for the 99-00 Civic Si. From Honda, this shift linkage is around 70 dollars and you’ll end up using the d-series shifter. This requires some work as you’ll have to take apart your d-series linkage and put it back together using the b-series linkage.

Here is a list with approximate Pricing:

B16A Longblock (400-700)
Hydro Transmission (500-1500)
OBD1 Distributor (150 Used)
ECU (Chipped P28 150-200)
Mounts, Shift Linkage (200)
Axles (100-200 Used)
Total Price: 1500

Now of course this includes the best possible scenario, but if you have the time and patience along with some ability, you can have a B16A in your hatchback for about 1500 dollars. I have personally helped put this setup into a 92 VX hatchback. With a fields VTEC controller Cory Thompson put down 152 horsepower and 108 torque with no other modifications done to his car.

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