Engine management personal choice?
Power FC with commander is on special right now for 650 LIST....true stand alone, 20X20 with alot of really cool features...plus new english software out now!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im going with PowerFC once my topend is built.
</TD></TR></TABLE>**** YEAH! PFC all the way!
</TD></TR></TABLE>**** YEAH! PFC all the way!
I have the AEM EMS. I had hondata and opted to sell it in favor of the EMS. I really don't have anything nice to say about hondata's tech support. AEM however is just great. I was having some issues, I sent AEM my map, they fixed it and sent it back. Always helpful, prompt, and never charge any money, even for hardware work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxspeedhonda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Always helpful, prompt, and never charge any money, even for hardware work.</TD></TR></TABLE>they should! for the arm and a leg the charge for that thing-
other than price, it works great, but, lost of people dont have to control 10 coils, 4 stages of nitrous and 4 step rev-limiter lol
uberdata, PowerFC, EMS...in that order.
other than price, it works great, but, lost of people dont have to control 10 coils, 4 stages of nitrous and 4 step rev-limiter lol
uberdata, PowerFC, EMS...in that order.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they should! for the arm and a leg the charge for that thing</TD></TR></TABLE>
Add up the price for the hondata unit with all the added features and also the price of getting the ecu to send to them..
Add up the price for the hondata unit with all the added features and also the price of getting the ecu to send to them..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Add up the price for the hondata unit with all the added features and also the price of getting the ecu to send to them..
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no, i agree, that is one of the reason i like the powerfc for a honda right now, for instance, if you have a 96-98 EK, you dont need an up or down harness, and the price you pay for a fully programmable stand-alone + the commander, which allows you limited tuning on the fly and msot importantly parameter monitoring WITHOUT a laptop, is so damn cheap right now @ approx 600 on the street...to access all of its tuning features besides the basics and the 20x20's, you do need to hit up someone with either the new laptop software from apexi called FCPRO or someone who uses datalogit....
hit me up for tuners with this capability...
Modified by builthatch at 11:44 AM 2/10/2005
Add up the price for the hondata unit with all the added features and also the price of getting the ecu to send to them..
</TD></TR></TABLE>no, i agree, that is one of the reason i like the powerfc for a honda right now, for instance, if you have a 96-98 EK, you dont need an up or down harness, and the price you pay for a fully programmable stand-alone + the commander, which allows you limited tuning on the fly and msot importantly parameter monitoring WITHOUT a laptop, is so damn cheap right now @ approx 600 on the street...to access all of its tuning features besides the basics and the 20x20's, you do need to hit up someone with either the new laptop software from apexi called FCPRO or someone who uses datalogit....
hit me up for tuners with this capability...
Modified by builthatch at 11:44 AM 2/10/2005
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Add up the price for the hondata unit with all the added features and also the price of getting the ecu to send to them..
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Which is the main reason that I got rid of mine. I had the socketed p28 and s200b box. When it came around to tuning it, I realized all the additional stuff that I needed to buy, rom editor, romulator, emulator, chip burner, etc. With all that added up, I figure why not just spend a little more and get something better. Plus I didn't like the whole chip burning eveything i wanted to change something.
Add up the price for the hondata unit with all the added features and also the price of getting the ecu to send to them..
</TD></TR></TABLE>Which is the main reason that I got rid of mine. I had the socketed p28 and s200b box. When it came around to tuning it, I realized all the additional stuff that I needed to buy, rom editor, romulator, emulator, chip burner, etc. With all that added up, I figure why not just spend a little more and get something better. Plus I didn't like the whole chip burning eveything i wanted to change something.
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no, i agree, that is one of the reason i like the powerfc for a honda right now, for instance, if you have a 96-98 EK, you dont need an up or down harness, and the prince you pay for a fully programmable stand-alone + the commander, which allows you limited tuning on the fly and msot importantly parameter monitoring WITHOUT a laptop, is so damn cheap right now @ approx 600 on the street...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Never worked with the powerfc before, but I hear its a pretty good unit.. If it allows on the fly tuning without chip burning for $600 then thats not bad at all..
no, i agree, that is one of the reason i like the powerfc for a honda right now, for instance, if you have a 96-98 EK, you dont need an up or down harness, and the prince you pay for a fully programmable stand-alone + the commander, which allows you limited tuning on the fly and msot importantly parameter monitoring WITHOUT a laptop, is so damn cheap right now @ approx 600 on the street...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Never worked with the powerfc before, but I hear its a pretty good unit.. If it allows on the fly tuning without chip burning for $600 then thats not bad at all..
you can spend like 100 bucks on hardware to have real time programming + datalogging on a stock ecu.
thats considering you already have a laptop
Modified by mmuller at 2:02 AM 2/21/2005
thats considering you already have a laptop
Modified by mmuller at 2:02 AM 2/21/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinister6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PFC all the way, but then last weekend after i checked with Haltech E6X, I dont know, it looks awesome.</TD></TR></TABLE>Hlatech isnt plug and play tho; and doesnt have onboard monitoring like the commander on the FC and "no-laptop" tuning capabilites with such like the PFC.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hlatech isnt plug and play tho; and doesnt have onboard monitoring like the commander on the FC and "no-laptop" tuning capabilites with such like the PFC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know, but then i figular 90% of the ppl in track are either using FConV Pro, or Haltech, only a small majority of them use PFC, I wonder if PFC is "weaker" then those.
I know, but then i figular 90% of the ppl in track are either using FConV Pro, or Haltech, only a small majority of them use PFC, I wonder if PFC is "weaker" then those.
fc pro is def more of a street setup, altho some of the most powerful cars in the world run it...EVO's, SKYLINES, Apexi Integra, Jensen Oda's EK hatch, apexi drift rx7 etc...
its 20x20, uses a nice windows based interface, has a nice idle stability feature as well as several more in-depth tuning features like coolant temp retard/ adv, intake air temp retard/ adv, etc etc etc, has the commander to do loose tuning on the fly as well as peep sensor values/ vehicle system functions/ peak hold etc in real time...
its just easy to use and affordable.
doesnt do all the crazy **** the aem pieces do, but is very flexible and cheap/ eay to use vs. some of the other systems out there. 600 bux is a nice price....
its 20x20, uses a nice windows based interface, has a nice idle stability feature as well as several more in-depth tuning features like coolant temp retard/ adv, intake air temp retard/ adv, etc etc etc, has the commander to do loose tuning on the fly as well as peep sensor values/ vehicle system functions/ peak hold etc in real time...
its just easy to use and affordable.
doesnt do all the crazy **** the aem pieces do, but is very flexible and cheap/ eay to use vs. some of the other systems out there. 600 bux is a nice price....
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