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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 02:05 PM
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Default Effective compression ratio

If two motors have the same effective compression ratios, regardless of induction type, should they make the same power?
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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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Do these two motors have any different specs?
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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 02:34 PM
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Well say one is turbo and the other is all motor.

Examples:

Static compression: 9.6:1
Boost: 6 PSI
Effective compression: 13.5:1

Static compression: 13.5:1
Boost: 0
Effective compression: 13.5:1

So the effective compression of the motors is the same, but I would imagine the boosted motor would make more power. Why is that?
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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 03:06 PM
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Unless the n/a motor operates at 100% volumetric efficiency, effective/dynamic compression will be quite a bit less than static compression. Also, unless running a HUGE cam, 13.5:1 compression on pump gas ain't happening.

Even if both motors sport similar displacement, there are FAR too many variables to consider: cylinder head flow, cam profiles, boost, a/f ratio, timing maps, operating RPM range, etc. Compression ratio alone does not dictate power output.

To answer the original question as simply as possible, the forced induction motor simply moves more air, hence greater power production.
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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Effective compression ratio (Jim S. '95 Z28)

Also, unless running a HUGE cam, 13.5:1 compression on pump gas ain't happening.
yeah, many people dont understand the difference with running that high compression with a Type R cam vs. a Toda Spec C cam ...

To answer the original question as simply as possible, the forced induction motor simply moves more air, hence greater power production.
pretty much the answer is volumetric efficiency and O2 content.

Greg




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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 03:24 PM
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To add, compression ratio, as the name states, is a ratio of cylinder volume at TDC divided by cylinder volume at BDC. Regarding the two motors in question, although they both feature the same compression ratio, there a whole lot more air in the forced induction motor at BDC compared to the n/a motor.
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