Does anyone have info on how to convert a b16 to carbs.
Don;t tell me itl;s too much, not worth it, ect.. unless you ahve proof.
I have been trying to find info, but Weber is not much help. Any info, links, would be great

Thanks

 

What exactly is your reason for doing this?

 

try somthing a little differnt.
And since it;s the smae theory as ITBs i figure it shoudl ahve some good gains too

 

mm..carbs..u shouldnt ask about carbs most people will give u the "100 year old technology on My VtEc yO" speech. the people i know who ran dual carbs on vtec motors would simply use a rpm switch for vtec. ecu is there for spark purposes i believe.make sure u jet them to be able to fuel vtec.id say some mikuni 44s would be awesome on a b16. plenty of zc, ls, and sohc guys know whats up with carbs. at willow, there was a guy using FCR keihins on his R motor in a EG..siick.

heres a gsr in a eg, with 45 dcoe webers.

 

ya i know thats what i have been getting
It's like carbs, it;s not a V8 you know

Thats so far the info thati ahve gotten. My questions is though, won;t the ECU freak, and get a check enigne light without injectors.

those are the ones i want the 45 DCOEs

Do you knwo where i can find info on the Mikuni's?

thanks

 

well of course youll have a check engine light..its not gonna make the car run bad because the sensors and injectors arent doing anything really anymore..the car is being fueled from the carbs

mikuni dual 44's and such are out of production at least in the states, u gotta find them used. weber u can buy brand new tho.

 

alright i'll just pop that bulb out

Or what about removing the injecotr circutis fromt he ECU?

What about timing? With the ECU probably going into limp mode what will happen to the timing or does it really matter?

 

id say forget the ECU, get a spark unit and thats all you need.

the fuel is all mechanical.

get a set of Kehin FCR's - thats what i was going to do to my prelude - till i went EFI...

good luck - i hope you have LOTS of paitence...

t..

 

wut would i need to carb my ls and drop it into a 87 hachy??

 

spark unit as in an MSD?
what about other ECU contolled things?

wehre can i get the Kehin FCRs at? Or some info on them

The only one i ahve been able to find info about are Webers

As for patience i ahve the whole winter to sort them out


[Modified by zc911, 2:48 AM 8/23/2002]

 

try here http://www.carbparts.com/

itis going to be interesting because they are motorcycle carbies and some people will not understand what you are trying to do.

i was told that these are not best for a daily driver though...

yeah, some MSD stuff should cover it...

is this a drag car or what?

t..

 

I heard a hatch with some dual sidedrafts, Mean, thats the answer.
Lot of ears will be listenen

 

If your planning on running carbs beware of poor gas mileage. Those babies will kill ur pockets of gas. I have some mikunis on my toyota truck and plan on putting some in my hatch. What u would need is a intake manifold which u can get from twm induction as well as the linkage. for vtec u would need an rpm activated switch. U'll love the sound of carbs and performance. The bad thing about running carbs especially on honda's with high reving is that the carbs dont perform to good at high rpm's. I would thinnk they would do real good with the not so high reving ls motors.

 

another option is to look at hte CV dual carbies used on ht eearly preludes and civics.

these were very good quality and are a good balance of performance and reliability...

but may not be good for an all out drag car...

just a thought?

t..

 

thanks guys for all the info.

The car is street driven, i can live with bad gas milleage.

I know carbs can like high RPM as i have seen some AE86s that rev the hell outt the motors with carbs

i am gonna check out that link right now

 

how bad are the gas millage gonna be?

 

I would stay away from carbs, because they are VERY picky to tune. And the other guys in here are right, if you move to a different altitude, you have to retune them, not to mention bad gas mileage and emissions. If it were me, It'd get the ECU chipped with a Fat fuel curve and remove the Rev Limiter

 

From what I understand carbs are easier to tune, unless you have a stand alone engine management. It would be a cheap tuning tool. However, FI has endless parameters and with the right computer it can adjust almost anything. You get near max response, mpg, and efficienty throughout the entire rev range. Furthermore, fuel-injection is more accurate(same performance over several repetions) in adjustments, which is a necessity when tuning. In some ways FI is similar to a carb with hundreds of jets. Most of the advantages is due to better atomization of the fuel. Some people can do very good with carbs but it's not for me.

 

recarbco in pittsburg calif. was looking into making kits to run carbs on honda motors a few years ago, you should call them and see where they stand.. they where very into the idea when i worked for them..

 

so some of you think is hard to tune, but some of you think is easy to tune ...


hmmmmmmmmm

 

if you live in an area with smog checks, and (plan on stocking out the car every two years - trust me, you will have to - to even pass the visual), i gar-run-tee carbs will kill your catalytic convertors and consequently make you fail your emmisions test. That is, unless you run a straight-pipe. But then, you will really-really stink going down the road. And pretty girls won't want to get in your car cause you'll stink like gasoline fumes all the time. And then THEY will stink and get frustrated with you and your car.

 

lol

 

I had dual mikuni 44's on my 3-t toyota, the cam was the norris 368s (510 lift 490 duration ) bored out to 1941 cc 89mm forged wiseco pistons with trd lsd and 4:30 gears man that thing hauled ***, Now you guys are talking about carbing the b- series ? i think i just got the carb bug back again...

 

What would the advantages of carbs be over fuel injection? I have grown up aroungd fi engines and not (until recently) learned much about carburators. But I am still in the dark as to the advantages of one method over the other.

 

you get more power inthe long run with Fi but carbs are nknow to rev quicker and allow more air in just make sure there is enough fuel for vtec. I suggest getting the Speed Pro book on Weber DCOE and Dellorto DHLA it is packed full is staaarting places for jetting and problem solving. if you need help with it i'm good at getting a base starting point for a best lean idle mixture. Just tell me how many cc the motor is and thats about it.