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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnnyTequila &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and we have a new candidate for the Darwin Awards


people are so ignorant, i had to force some lady to cut her car off while pumping gas one day
you also arent supposed to smoke while pumping gas, and in some states must be older than 16 to pump gas. along with you arent supposed to get back in the car while the gas pumps. there are a **** load of rules that are posted at every gas station in america, reading these might be helpful.

they should probably make this a part of getting a drivers license,
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alright einstein. PLEASE explain exactly HOW my car running measurably increases the chance of an electric discharge? you are so ignorant that you believe everything u read. comparing helicopter blades stropping the air and the car engine running have NOTHING in common. maybe the FAA should be notified of your ignorance and revoke your A&P license. so please shut the hell up and someone lock this thread before you ********* get more chances to prove your dumb-assed-ness
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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alright einstein. PLEASE explain exactly HOW my car running measurably increases the chance of an electric discharge? you are so ignorant that you believe everything u read. comparing helicopter blades stropping the air and the car engine running have NOTHING in common. maybe the FAA should be notified of your ignorance and revoke your A&P license. so please shut the hell up and someone lock this thread before you ********* get more chances to prove your dumb-assed-ness</TD></TR></TABLE>

Easy there.

There is no direct connection between a running engine and static electricity, nobody in this thread stated anything remotely close to that.

They are both things you should not do, that's what the relevance is. Along with a few other things. Since you didn't bother to read the link I posted, go read it now. Make sure to scroll down and read the whole thing.
http://www.pei.org/news/static.htm

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:14 AM
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maybe we should trade High school educations cause I said. Shocking as in in disbelief you would write some of that nature on here.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Vactor, just to let you know, you are suppose to turn your car off while pumping gas. And to let you know how much attention this thread is getting, it is being posted on HPOA.org, offtopic.com, and other forums with people calling you a dumbass. You should actually listen to what the others are saying because it's common sense. Turn off the car while pumping gas.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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TURN THE CAR OFF NUMB NUTS!!!!!

and **** "Mythbusters". It might be highly unlikely, but the posibility is still there. It is also unlikely that you will be struck by lightning if you ran around holding a golf club in the air, in the middle of an open field during a thunder storm. You wouldn't do that would you..?

Besides, that thing on Mythbusters was talking about a Cell phone ringing at a gas station.... NOT your car running while filling.

Your probably one of those people who don't use there blinkers..... ****!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Is this a joke like that ******* that said he drillied into his valve cover to inject nitrous??? No can realy be this stupid right?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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so far u people are demonstrating to be the same ignorant masses who object to georgia using the term "evolution" in their science texts. NOBODY has been able to tell me WHY one should turn off a car!! go ahead and if u believe that u should also be easily able to go to Iraq and find the missing weapons of mass destruction. until someone can say WHY it is a good reason to turn off a car while fueling, you can all kiss my *** and remain the ignoramuses that you are and make us the laughing stock of the world.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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you are a jackass and btw yes you can cause an explosion with a cell phone at a gas station...
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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It could be a number of things, number 1 there is not enough pressure in the tank causing your fuel pressure to act up. Depending on how much gas you have, the fuel could be hitting the fuel pump or fuel around the pump and be causing your pump to suck up air.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crXBoy69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are a jackass and btw yes you can cause an explosion with a cell phone at a gas station...</TD></TR></TABLE> ok ignoramus #1, please tell me how ...
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It could be a number of things, number 1 there is not enough pressure in the tank causing your fuel pressure to act up. Depending on how much gas you have, the fuel could be hitting the fuel pump or fuel around the pump and be causing your pump to suck up air.</TD></TR></TABLE> thanks for the insight. seems the fuel pump may be at issue. i may go back to stock.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Its called static electricity. You know when you get out of the car and get shocked? That spark could be enough to cause an explosion. Turning the engine off while you pump gas will fix your problem. If the car ran fine with the tank open, it wouldn't be sealed from the factory now would it?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racerx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its called static electricity. You know when you get out of the car and get shocked? That spark could be enough to cause an explosion. Turning the engine off while you pump gas will fix your problem. If the car ran fine with the tank open, it wouldn't be sealed from the factory now would it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
OMG, this is the funniest **** i have read in a while. _you_ think that the engine running has ANYTHING to do with STATIC discharges? kill yourself now and get it over with you goddamn MORON! PLEASE take an elementary physics class and get back to me after you pass. ignoramus #2
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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^
Man we got a real winner here.
Future Darwin Award candidate folks.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Hmmm....can anyone tell me why the check engine light comes on when the gas cap is loose or totally removed from the car?

I think its telling you that the car is not supposed to be running without having a gas cap on. Thats the reason why its stalling. Its not your damn fuel pump. Quit being so hard headed and turn off your car.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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believe this or not, but I used to work at a Tom Thumb here in the Dallas area, and while I was at work there was a small explosion across the street at a Texaco station where a guy in a Tahoe left his car running while he was pumping gas and he went inside to pay and in that short moment of time....BOOM! Pump and car exploded due to some static charge that was caused by a spark from his car running....
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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sure, it was stattic from a running car. it was the water from the drier. the coffee grounds in the airbag. whatever.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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fuel systems operate on a vacume.. when the gas cap is open there is no vacume, hence it runs shitty....

try turning it off then filling it..
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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I think the point of the responses is, if banging your head into the wall gives you a headache, stop banging your head into the wall. Seems like a pretty damned easy fix for your problem.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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there is alot of bad info in this thread

1) CEL comes on with gas cap missing because it senses the giant leak in the evap system. It will not affect your car running...period.

2) the car is probably stalling because, like a few people already stated, your probably introducing air into the fuel lines from the new fuel splashing around and causing bubbles

3)If I had to guess why you are supposed toturn the car off is because most people dont maintain their car like they should. In fact, most down right neglect their vehicles. A very common problem with neglected vehicles is misfires from bad plug wires. If that spark is finding its way to ground outside of any shielding/ insulation, and it comes into contact with fuel vapors. It may not be very likely, but it is still possible. I fix at least one car a week with bad plug wires. Lots of cars fill up every week. If everyone left their car running while refueling the odds that a serious accident would happen would go up dramatically.

4) car fuel systems do not run on pressure or vacuum in the tank...they run a fuel pump that pressurizes the lines

-OP, although I think you are stupid for not shutting off the vehicle while refueling, (it literally takes 2 seconds to shut it off and restart it) I will agree with you that some of the reponses that are posted are ABSOLUTELY RETARDED. Im sure there are several othe possible ways
for a running vehicle to ignite fumes, but I would think the ignition system is the most likely. No matter how unlikely it is to happen the bottom line is its not worth the risk. Im sure you have seen gas pump fires on the internet. It always totals the vehicle, and sometimes people get hurt. Its just not worth it.


Yes I know there are running vehicles at gas stations all the time, but when you refuel, the gas pushes lots of vapors out of the tank, and most of the time I would say your own engine is the closest engine to the tank nozzle, which makes it the biggest hazard. Again it is highly unlikely but just as the mythbusters say "its plausible" if all the right conditions are met.


shame on the rest of you idiots for flaming with no real explantion as to why its bad, and worse yet, justifing it with wrong information

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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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yeah, i would just turn the car off...
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by srmofo
there is alot of bad info in this thread

1) CEL comes on with gas cap missing because it senses the giant leak in the evap system. It will not affect your car running...period.

2) the car is probably stalling because, like a few people already stated, your probably introducing air into the fuel lines from the new fuel splashing around and causing bubbles

3)If I had to guess why you are supposed toturn the car off is because most people dont maintain their car like they should. In fact, most down right neglect their vehicles. A very common problem with neglected vehicles is misfires from bad plug wires. If that spark is finding its way to ground outside of any shielding/ insulation, and it comes into contact with fuel vapors. It may not be very likely, but it is still possible. I fix at least one car a week with bad plug wires. Lots of cars fill up every week. If everyone left their car running while refueling the odds that a serious accident would happen would go up dramatically.

4) car fuel systems do not run on pressure or vacuum in the tank...they run a fuel pump that pressurizes the lines

-OP, although I think you are stupid for not shutting off the vehicle while refueling, (it literally takes 2 seconds to shut it off and restart it) I will agree with you that some of the reponses that are posted are ABSOLUTELY RETARDED. Im sure there are several othe possible ways
for a running vehicle to ignite fumes, but I would think the ignition system is the most likely. No matter how unlikely it is to happen the bottom line is its not worth the risk. Im sure you have seen gas pump fires on the internet. It always totals the vehicle, and sometimes people get hurt. Its just not worth it.


Yes I know there are running vehicles at gas stations all the time, but when you refuel, the gas pushes lots of vapors out of the tank, and most of the time I would say your own engine is the closest engine to the tank nozzle, which makes it the biggest hazard. Again it is highly unlikely but just as the mythbusters say "its plausible" if all the right conditions are met.


shame on the rest of you idiots for flaming with no real explantion as to why its bad, and worse yet, justifing it with wrong information
Although I agree with most of the above, it is shame on the OP, first for leaving the car running while fueling and second for not just taking the advice first given, "turn the car off" as it would solve his problem.

Yes, some of the "reasons" given for what is happening may not have been correct and even a little silly, as for the flaming, the OP deserves every bit of it.

Like in the states, here in Canada you are not allowed to smoke, use a cell phone or have the engine running when fueling and at self serve gas stations the pump handle can not be "locked" on, the differance is that up here is you CAN NOT fuel up if you are smoking, using a cell phone or engine is running, or if you try and jamb something in the pump handle, [gas cap] to keep it on, attendent will not turn pump on or will turn it off if already pumping, I am surprised to hear that you can get away with fueling your car with the engine running at all.

vactor, if you think **** like this does not happen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KK48hQ78Kk
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in617547.shtml
You are right that a running engine probably does nothing to increase static electricity, there are other things to worry about, like the hot exhaust, in your case a misfire resulting in a backfire, an arcing switch like a door chime and so on, besides static there are more then a few spark sources in a running car and although the static discharge will happen with car running or not it is what may happen if fire gets under the car and burns through the gas line, now you have the cars fuel pump spuing gas at 30+ PSI, get the picture?

Setting aside some of the silly things, every post to this tread has suggested the same thing, turn off your engine, it is the cause of your problem, turning off the engine would solve your problem, why not just take the advice and call it a day? 94
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