sup guys, i have a obd1 gsr swap in my 94eg hatch and the car does not want to start. My timing is right on, im getting fuel, and i've got spark, Dizzy is brand spanking new out the box. when the key is on III position to start, the brake light in the cluster goes on. its not brake fluid or the sensor. IT seems like a ground or electrical issue. I've checked my thermostat ground, tranny to chassis ground, and valve cover ground. Nothing. Somebody please help me.

after trying to start the car i get a humming noise coming from the iac. sounds electrical to me.




Modified by 3ghandles at 4:17 PM 11/2/2007


Modified by 3ghandles at 9:37 AM 11/13/2007

 

The IAC will make a humming type sound, because its a duty controlled solenoid kinda like an injector. Are you getting good power to the ignitor/coil? CKPS output?

 

im not sure if the ignitor /coil is getting good power. i checked with a light tester i have and a few lit up wasnt sure wich ones i'm supposed to test. About the ckps i'm having confusions right now. its a 94 civic with a obd1 gsr harness with a obd1 gsr ecu isnt this eliminated? thanks

 

Is the ignitor module brand new? and the brake lights dont stay on whe the car is off? check the brake light switch on the pedal assembly...normaly the little plastic stoper breaks leaving it on all the time.

 

my brake lights dont stay on. all that is fine. my instrument cluster "brake light" comes on when key is in III position to start the car in patter with the starter.

 

forget the brake light in the cluster thing. Can somebody please help me fire this baby up again..i dont know what the problem is. i have fuel,spark and timing.

 

is your ebrake up? that why the light is on?

also what dizzy do you have? brand new honda? or some jank ****?

also your valve cover ground isnt even grounding.. switch it over to a actuall nut...

what ecu you running?

 

nope, ebrake is down and light comes on when cranking the car. i have a brand new distributor kings obd1 gsr dizzy that is sparking. i tried switching the valve cover ground and it does nothing for me. im using obd1 p72 gsr ecu. tried switching to a known working p28 and still nothing.

 

your not goin to be able to tell from a valve cover ground iam just saying its not even grounding anything where its at.

so you get spark on all 4 cyl right?

i would try a known good dizzy from a friend

does the car just sit and crank??

 

yep, got spark in all 4 cylinders.

already did that i had a spare dizzy in hand wich works and nothing. I ended up selling the dizzy and bought the one i have now. and he's using it on his ITR Swap..
the car just sits and cranks..lol (bastard)

 

and your sure all your grounds are good? thermostat, battery,trans?

very strange.. are your spark plugs for sure good?

coil good?

 

yea im using brand new ngk's, coil checks out on multimeter.

strange thing about this, and its why i call it an "electrical issue" is because after you crank the engine and you leave the switch open there's a constant electric humming noise coming from the e.a.c.v.


when i first tried to start car after the build it started for a second and a half then died. tried starting and had a loud pop from the intake. tried starting again and another pop. and that was the last sign of life is shown.

so i got a brake light in the cluster that only comes on when cranking the motor and a electrical humming from the eacv after cranking. its not normal neither one of them.

 

poping threw the intake like its misfiring threw there??

so take apart the eacv. and clean it and check it out..

test that sensor yet?

 

how would you test this sensor?

 

i would try cleaning the iacv first....

some info on your intake/vacum lineshttp://www.team-integra.net/fo...Topic

this tellls you how to clean it here:
http://www.team-integra.net/fo...26089

 

ok, i'll give it a try. thanks

 

okay, all my vaccum lines are on correctly, cleaned the iac and still i have nothing. quick question when you unplug your map sensor arent you suppose to get a check engine light? because i unplug my map sensor and the tps sensor and it has no check engine light..maybe the map sensor is bad?

 

any other ideas?

 

Back firing through the intake? Dumb question, but do you have the spark plug wires in the wrong firing order?

 

34
12 4321 is my firing order, wich is correct. Idk what else to do.

edited.


Modified by 3ghandles at 9:11 AM 11/16/2007

 

firing order is 1342.

maby the dizzy shaft thats connecting to the camshaft is 180degs upside down...

 

my dizzy only goes in one way, you cant miss it wont let you. thanks

 

i didnt mean the dizzy itself... only the part that goes in the cam,

 

sounds like somebody put the prug wires on wrong..... (1342)

 

your problem sounds very simmilar to mine, i had spark, fuel, and thought the timing was on but it ended up jumping and had to adjust the belt itself, youd be suprised how easily they can jump