hey, i think this is the right form for this?

i'm thinking about putting a block gridle on my ls block for my ls/vtec set up. I know the ls block will need some machining, but do the aftermarket (Z10, Endyn, GE, Ect.) need machining also? or does it jsut bolt right on with out any modification?

also when using a block gridle i know you need to get a gsr oil pan, oil pick up, and windage tray. I would like to know how much it would cost to get everything in my car correctly with all the machining done. and is it really worth it?

TIA

Modified by JDM B16 EK at 2:21 PM 1/28/2005


Modified by JDM B16 EK at 8:52 PM 2/1/2005

 

http://www.ecutuning.com/show_....html


check out this girdle, its worth it if u are gonna be revving up to anywhere around 9 imo. without it the crank can warp. if you plan on using this golden eagle kit, you have to use a gsr oil pick up, and then u have to switch to gsr oil pan cuz the gsr oil pick up is longer than the ls.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrnsferErr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.ecutuning.com/show_....html


check out this girdle, its worth it if u are gonna be revving up to anywhere around 9 imo. without it the crank can warp. if you plan on using this golden eagle kit, you have to use a gsr oil pick up, and then u have to switch to gsr oil pan cuz the gsr oil pick up is longer than the ls.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the info TrnsferErr, but i don't have that much money to spend that much on a girdle

can anyone tell me how much it would cost to put an OEM girdle in correctly

 

Ours works on all Honda Bseries blocks and comes with new dowels and a new set of ARP main Studs. Killer deal!

 

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i couldn't find the price......how much does that kit cost?

 

ya whats the price?? And would machining be necessary to keep the crank bore true?

 

TTT

 

ya whats the price?? And would machining be necessary to keep the crank bore true?

Edit: Just read the "fine" print on your advertisement. It does infact require an align bore. Ive been told that that is expensive, or at least that not ALOT of machine shops have the equipment to do it. Is there any girdle out there that wouldnt require shaving the mains and an align bore?

 

pretty much all of the girdles are going to require line boring.
you might get lucky and the bores not distort on you when torqued, but you have to be ready to do it if needed.
the girdle is mostly needed if you do lots of high speed/ high load runs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pretty much all of the girdles are going to require line boring.
you might get lucky and the bores not distort on you when torqued, but you have to be ready to do it if needed.
the girdle is mostly needed if you do lots of high speed/ high load runs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so would it be worth it spend the extra money for the girdle. i was just thinking of getting an oem girdle.

 

We think you should get it align honed but at the very laest you need to have them checked after you install any girdle. You can get an align hone from any capable machine shop for 150.00 to 180.00.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ERL Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We think you should get it align honed but at the very laest you need to have them checked after you install any girdle. You can get an align hone from any capable machine shop for 150.00 to 180.00.</TD></TR></TABLE>

$500 for girdle plus $150-$180 machining is a lot more then i'm looking to spend on a girdle.

i would just like to know how much it would cost to put an OEM girdle on my LS block

 

you can get a cheap one of of ebay that is billet but its for the 3 caps not 5 unless your making 800 hp or reving it to 20000 rpms 3 cap girdle is all u need.The ones on ebay are cheap but are identical to the endyne one.Cost is like 165 buy it now.I have personally used one and its still on the motor today just incase anybody wants to knock me for using ebay stuff.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by per4mance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can get a cheap one of of ebay that is billet but its for the 3 caps not 5 unless your making 800 hp or reving it to 20000 rpms 3 cap girdle is all u need.The ones on ebay are cheap but are identical to the endyne one.Cost is like 165 buy it now.I have personally used one and its still on the motor today just incase anybody wants to knock me for using ebay stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i tried searching for them but couldnt find it. what compay makes it? so im going to be spending like 300 for a girdle put on my block?

 

Seems to me that my total cost was more like $500-600. You need to buy the girdle (Endyn, $200 + shipping), the GSR main bolts, dowel pins, GSR windage tray/pickup/pan. Then there is machine work for the dowels and the align hone. It ain't cheap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acy76 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seems to me that my total cost was more like $500-600. You need to buy the girdle (Endyn, $200 + shipping), the GSR main bolts, dowel pins, GSR windage tray/pickup/pan. Then there is machine work for the dowels and the align hone. It ain't cheap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, didn't know it would come out to be thta much, i guess i'll go with just an OEM gsr girdle.