Ok this question maybe stupid.

There's a guy selling his 94 integra with a GSR swap, he has a couple of mods on it and among these is a B16 head. So my question is as follows, what is the purpose of the B16 head, and why not just keep the B18 head??

Is this just for economical reasons or those this serve a purpose??

 

It's a start to the "poor mans type R"

 

gsr block plus gsr head (p72)=b18c1
gsr block plus b16 head (pr3)=b18c5

 

well that explains why he had Type-R Emblems.

What does a"Poormans Type-R" mean (does the car performe somewhat like a Type-R)??
Or in other words is this B16 head a good or bad thing??

 

swapping the p72 head for a pr3 head was not very smart...

 

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gsr block plus b16 head (pr3)=b18c5</TD></TR></TABLE>

adding a b16 head to a stock gsr block does not make a b18c5. if you do this, you are actually lowering the compression below 10:1. to have a COMPLETE poormans type-r, you need itr pistons in a b18c block and the b16 head.

that set-up should give you around 11:1 compression, which is close to a b18c5.

like muller said, it was kind of a lame idea to put a b16 head on a gsr block, unless the block has type-r pistons.

 

Well the car has Wiseco Pistons with 12:1 compresion

Heres a List of the mods and pics. Do you think its a good buy at $6,000 (p.s. the engine has 45,000 miles on it.)
http://www.freewebs.com/toplev...s.htm

 

would be a good buy, but it sounds fishy.
I would ask why a fully built engine still has the stock header.
having aftermarket cams and no cam gears...
it says there aem cold air....maybe open hood cold air.
$8k head... ask him what valvetrain he's running

 

He said the engine came with after market headers but were taken off because they didnt fit (he wanted to keep all the comforts like a/c and power stering), the cams are GSR, he was going to put the skunk2 cams but didnt, he is not sure about the valvetrain but he believes its Web (since is dual valve springs are Web) since he isnt sure he said he would contact the shop that build the engine and ask them and as for the B16 head he ment it has 8,000 miles on it
and whats that about the AEM intake??

 

b16 head has better flow the gsr head, and more products, such as Intake manifolds for it.

 

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Dude, that's not even right. Stock for stock, the ALANIZ flow chart list the GSR head to flow marginally better at low and high lifts, but suffers slightly at mid lift. that's 2/3.

not to mention the internal parts that can go on the PR3 head can also go into the P72, unless you mean an ITR intake manifold, in which case skunk2 also makes one for the GSR head. C'mon.

 

not only that, quench and port direction is better on the p72 head.

 

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Indeed it is.

 

the gsr head also has smaller combustion chambers for a higher compression ratio like 41 cc vs. 45cc on the si /type-r head.

 

Were talkin maybe 5whp difference

 

what about a b16 head on a built gsr bottom for a turbo car?

 

a little late on this, but this is what im planning to do....built gsr (dart) block with p&p b16 head (with maybe gsr cams?) with all ferrea valvetrain...would this benefit me more? i plan on also runnin obd1 dizzy (gsr) for hondata so should i just spend the extra money for the gsr head or would built b16 head cut it? basically im asking which setup would work best, i own a complete (kinda junked)b16 for parts but ....planning on building a daily driver that could hold about 18-20 psi when needed just trying to do everything right on my first turbo project....thanks in advance....

btw....bump this thread! haha

 

I preach on this site of how a B18(GSR)head will **** all over a B16(R)head in a turbo application.