I have heard the Dart makes deckplates for hondas but cant seem to find any info on them? Just wondering if anyone has any info on them, or input on using them. I know back in the day they were used but havnt heard of them since. And also i know using the deck plate raises the r/s ratio, and puts more force on the sleeves, i was wondering if you could use a deckplate with having the motor sleeved? Any info would help, and I am kinda of a noob, so dont be to harsh

 

 

ERL used Darton Sleeves and deckplates in combination. I don't think you can get just the plate.

http://www.erlperformance.com

 

The higher the R/S ratio by raising the deck, the lower the rod angle, which puts less stress on the piston thrust side and lowers the side load force on the sleeve. You should do a deckplate and sleeves at the same time.

 

good info guys...from what ive read (so far now) everyone uses the combination of deckplate and sleeves...just a shot in the dark, what would be a downside of just using a deckplate?

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so it lowers the side load on the sleeve, isnt sleeving not needed? Just some questions ive been thinking about for awhile...

 

You have to re-sleeve to raise the cylinder to thetop of the new deck height. If it's done correctly, there aren't any draw backs. A proper timing belt and head studs for the new deck height will be needed.

 

oh ok, I understand, the deck plate is only used as a space to raise the head to the sleeve height, I was thinking along the lines of using the deck plate to raise the sleeves also, basiclly the deckplate would be used as the sleeve too. Anyone ever tried or thought of doing this?

 

no, because the deck plate will not handle the stress of the pistons, it will block coolant flow, and most importantly, the piston will leave the sleeve below and enter the deck plate's "sleeve." the piston should NEVER go from one piece of material to another. your motor will have terrible blow-by and will not last very long. it will destroy itself as well as create leaks along the way. this is why nobody makes it that way. you get the deck plate, and that raises the bolt holes for the head and the coolant holes and exterior edge of the head, then you get sleeves that are stock height plus the height of the deck plate. end of story (this is the only way it will work). or get a block that has a taller deck to begin with.

 

good info, I was just trying to figure out a cheap way to stroke a motor , thanks man

 

this isnt gonna be cheap, deckplates are money no matter what way you look at it. you can get custom pistons/rods for a bigger crank so your rod/ratio will stay up to get a bigger displacement, but i woudl look at sleeving the block to go bigger bore( better and safer way of getting more displacement then stroking it)

 

I knew what the costs were, I was just trying to get away without sleeving it that all, and a custom deckplate