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Old Jan 6, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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Default Apexi VAFC or Field's SFC Vtec/Fuel Controller

They both control fuel enrichment plus vtec engagement and they're both digital. Now which one do you guys prefer? And why?
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Old Jan 6, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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The apexi by far, just more feature.
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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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What can I do w/ the Apex'i that I can't do w/ the Field's? I'm asking because there's an $80 or so difference.
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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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Personally I like the Apexi VAFC but yet have to try the Fields so that is why I like the Apexi.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Fields is easier to use

APEX'i has more features, and more adjustablilty
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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Vafc way more adjustability and fine tuning.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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Fields is easier to use
you're insane
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 08:25 AM
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Field is much easier to use, and it also has a voltage limiter built in
so that you wont overincrease the map sensor signal voltage and cause
a check engine light. The apex does not have that.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 09:39 AM
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The voltage limiter is a good feature, i wish my vafc had that. However, most people wont adjust it anywheres near the limit needed to trigger a code.
As for extra features, the vafc has the capability to display more than one readout on the screen at one time, such as revs and pressure. The vafc will also record maximum reached revs/throttle/etc. and has a basic graph style logger. I actually use mine to record revs while launching, which is helpful while practicing. I say vafc all the way
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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I guess I'll have to spend the extra 80 or so for the apex'i then.
Thanks guys.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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Fields is easier to use

you're insane
How do you figure. The field unit is WAY easier to adjust and use. The VAFC has so many menus and sub screens you have to be a Genuis to adjust everything. It's taken me months to get everything adjusted properly.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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No its called reading the instructions. You should never try to tune a device like the vafc without first reading the manual. People will buy more vafc's for the features that it does have over the fields.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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Nah, more people buy the VAFC for the pretty blue screen...
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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hmm maybe thats what you bought it for


[Modified by MugenEg6, 8:44 PM 1/8/2002]
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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heh.
every vafc i have seen to date has caused problems.
-10whp just by installing it. not bad
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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heh.
every vafc i have seen to date has caused problems.
-10whp just by installing it. not bad
exactly... and if it was installecd properly then it wouldnt malfunction.
dont you think?
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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No its called reading the instructions. You should never try to tune a device like the vafc without first reading the manual. People will buy more vafc's for the features that it does have over the fields.
The VAFC doesn't come with full instructions, just the basics.

I have heard of some problems with the Field unit too, but never had any. And I have also heard of the VAFC having problems too, but never had any either.

I guess, go with what you like.

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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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I'm no genius, and i didnt have a problem working my vafc.
I've never heard of an engine running poorly after an install, -unless- it was installed incorrectly. There are wires which need to be spliced at certain distances from each other into the harness. I'm not gonna go into it here, but its like that for a reason. These type of controllers simply intercept the rpm/map/tps signals and modify them as set. Its not a flaw of the unit, but of the install.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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If you're getting one or the other, I would recommend the Apex. Not because I have any experience with it (cause I don't), but that the Field's VTEC-SFC is a P.O.S. I had it on my OBDII Civic and it ran OK for a while and then outta the blue would make my car run like **** and throw codes. The thing was properly installed. Eventually I sold it someone building an LS/VTEC and the thing crapped out on that guy too. It's your choice, Apex'i or a piece of ****.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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I have a VAFC and it works fine. I soldered (spelling?) the wires and it hasn't given me a problem yet. Had it for 6 months.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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thank you all... i have proven the fields to be a flaw.
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