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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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i was wondering if theres a way to dissolve that carbon buildup while the engine is sitting in my garage?

b16 it has alot of buildup on exhaust valves and i rather not take everything off cuz then id have to get new headgasket etc and dont want to do that.

heres how they are now

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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Install the engine and SeaFoam ... http://www.seafoamsales.com/94
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seafoam webpage says it cleans intake side they dont mention anything about the exhaust side valves.

can i spray the seafoam cleaner in it while its sitting or does it need heat o work?
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by raverx3m
seafoam webpage says it cleans intake side they dont mention anything about the exhaust side valves.

can i spray the seafoam cleaner in it while its sitting or does it need heat o work?
Any degreaser, brake cleaner, etc will work. If the build up is particularly stubborn, you may have to soak the valves.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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are the exhaust valve stems coated with anything can i use brass wheel to get it off if i do take them out?

now that i think about it im gonna do the headgasket anyway
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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this is what i just done when i rebuilt me motor pull the valves out put them in order in a piece of cardboard so you dont put them back in the same place, use the wire wheel side of a bench grinder but use light pressure not so scar them and dont go in the section where the valve guide runs or you can damage the valve and guide.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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I don't think a wire wheel would be the best solution for cleaning valves. They do slide in guides and need to be completely smooth. Heavy de-greaser and soaking and a firm bristled brush.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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thats y i specifically said not to go on the section of the valves where it slides on the valve guide, i have recently done this on the car im driving now and it runs perfect no leaks no noises no problems related to valves.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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well theres no deposits on the moving part obviously cuz it moves...

anyone have a suggestion where those heavy deposits might have come from.

i never seen that much
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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well theres no deposits on the moving part obviously cuz it moves...

anyone have a suggestion where those heavy deposits might have come from.

i never seen that much
Looks like oil.
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piston rings or valve seals is there a way to tell the difference?
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piston rings or valve seals is there a way to tell the difference?
Exhaust valve seals are most susceptible to heat, if they are old they will become brittle and allow small amount of oil to be sucked past during times of high vacuum, thus being pulled onto the valves and burning onto them.
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so then bad piston rings the buildup would be all over the exhaust ports not just valves correct?
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Originally Posted by raverx3m
piston rings or valve seals is there a way to tell the difference?
On a B series, valve stems seals are almost guaranteed to be the culprit... Otherwise the edges of the pistons will show some "washing" if the oil is coming from there.
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nice.thanks dc5.
i probably gonna be taking the head off and valves out anyway to put the valve springs and cams in.
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Why not just hot tank them?
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cuz its washington hot tanks are cold here lol
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Default Re: any way to clean the valves?

Lol but seriously you can make one yourself fairly cheap. Battery tender, chicken wire fence stuff, plastic bin, distilled water and baking soda... BAM everything is clean!
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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Default Re: any way to clean the valves?

cuz im moving in a month im not gonna set up a frikkin machine shop in my garage now.


has anyone used the valve master tool?

im thinking of getting it
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Default Re: any way to clean the valves?

Back in the day I've stuck valves in a drill press and cleaned them with a 3M scotch brite pad. If your just trying to get by...

Truth is, if your valves have that amount of deposits on them it's going to need to come off, valve seals can be changed with the head on but I suggest checking the valve to guide clearance as well. IMHO unless your trying to do this super budget, finding a new or even a good used set of valves will save you a lot of work/headache.
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Originally Posted by FlewByU352
Lol but seriously you can make one yourself fairly cheap. Battery tender, chicken wire fence stuff, plastic bin, distilled water and baking soda... BAM everything is clean!
Have you actually tried this? Seems like your missing an important part of the instructions, if your trying to explain what I think you are.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fcm
Install the engine and SeaFoam ... http://www.seafoamsales.com/94
Bad idea, if the motor is higher-mileage say bye-bye to your rings. I have personal experience with this, as well as the backing of many others online.
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i used brake cleaner.worked great
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Default Re: any way to clean the valves?

Sde you have any links to support that? Ive used it 3 times on my car with no problem.
Tested the compression after about 4-5 years did not change.
It will break loose the carbon deposits if you have alot it will lower compression .
Or might open up some scuffs in the rings which were covered up by carbon deposits
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Sde you have any links to support that? Ive used it 3 times on my car with no problem.
Tested the compression after about 4-5 years did not change.
It will break loose the carbon deposits if you have alot it will lower compression .
Or might open up some scuffs in the rings which were covered up by carbon deposits
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/guaranteed-way-increase-your-horsepower-10-minutes-seafoam-1502112/

This guy originally did a DIY writeup on how to seafoam a motor...comes back 2 years later and edits his post saying it ruined his motor.

I had a 130k mile healthy D15B2, I ran 1/3 bottle through the brake booster. A month later, the car burned a ton of oil and smoked blue like no other. Ended up re-ringing it and fixed the problem
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