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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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If you have a shop do a rb25det it will cost roughly 8-10g. My partner has one done and he got a good deal and small sponsorship through http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com Here are some pics of his car.
http://groups.msn.com/TeamHash....msnw
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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damn he mustve gotten hell of upgrades

most rb25 swap is like 6-7 the most..... with a couple of upgrade like exhaust and a better FMIC...
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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I don't really know or heard of a shop that will get motor, tranny, custom drive shaft, wiring needs to be redone, and do all the work with a warranty for 6-7. On top of the everything that the swap included, he got a blitz intercooler and greddy intake manifold though. 6-7 is really cheap
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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jond2062
if you dont know any thing about rotorys then you wont like them, really they are awsome motors, no head, valves ect. they seem so simple. just by porting a rotory you can have a 300hp monster with only 1.3 liters comon thats awsome. try that with a honda.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyosupr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jond2062
if you dont know any thing about rotorys then you wont like them, really they are awsome motors, no head, valves ect. they seem so simple. just by porting a rotory you can have a 300hp monster with only 1.3 liters comon thats awsome. try that with a honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

rotary engines are not 1.3L, they are more like 2.6L. people are always told that, but the truth is that is not. SCCM did an article on this in one of their thechno tables, they went on to state that the area of the ports is not measured for final displacement measurements. look back i would say no more than 6 issues back, and you'll see for your selfs. how can you explain a 1.3L engine having worst fuel economy(non turbo models), than a 1.6L SOHC civic engine! my . 02c on rotaries P.S. not hatting on rotaries, just explaining my point!
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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lets see mazda or sccm, ill stick to the company who makes the engine...
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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umm buddy they are 1.3...... that so funny... 2.6???

and be able to rev as close as 12k daily driven
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fried_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys went a little off-topic here which is cool, but I wanna know how much are we talking about to be able to put a 2jz in a 240? A rough estimate would be helpful thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have no idea what it is going to cost, but I am going to be doing this to my 91'240, I think for the guys that are happy with 12's or even 11's it would not be worth the money or time to do this you can reach your goals as we can see with the sr20 or the rb26 but if you want to make big power-in the neiborhood of 800+ and not spend 30,000 on the engine alone the 2JZ is the only way to go. you can acheive 800hp with a completly stock short block and were making about 1600hp right now with the bullish motors and they have stock cranks in them the skyline crank comes apart with about 700hp and a good crank costs 5 grand!
I choose this because I love the 2JZ and the looks of the Nissan, I cannot afford the Supra and I would not be happy with performance of the Nissan. I think the 2JZ is the most cost effective motor to build for high horsepower applications.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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how much does the 2jz weigh? i know the sr20det is like 328lbs but i can find out how much the 2jz weighs. (wanted to see the weight distribution with the supra engine in there)
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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Whoa.....it has nothing to do with whether or not I like rotarys and has everything to do with the fact that rotary technology has come a long way. Rotary motors, in my own experience, have not been as reliable when they get some mileage under their belt. Meaning I'm a little wary of swapping rotary motors, even those with relatively low mileage. Again, just my 2 cents, and by no means am I saying that it shouldn't be done.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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this is a little off the subject but here is a picture of my friend seans 240 with a rb26 in it. it the whole swap was 5k. easy bolt in swap. the wiring was cake, just hade two hook up like 4 wires. used a s15 cross member, rb25 oil pan and tranny. every thing else like rear end, drive line, and mounts where the same. we did put a s15 rear end in for fun just because it had a lsd.

ps its the same one havokracing is talking about.

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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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nice
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evilxkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a little off the subject but here is a picture of my friend seans 240 with a rb26 in it. it the whole swap was 5k. easy bolt in swap. the wiring was cake, just hade two hook up like 4 wires. used a s15 cross member, rb25 oil pan and tranny. every thing else like rear end, drive line, and mounts where the same. we did put a s15 rear end in for fun just because it had a lsd.

ps its the same one havokracing is talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So that's an AWD engine in a 240 that's been converted over to RWD? If so, isn't it smarter to just start already with a RWD Skyline engine? (I'm just curious) Thanks.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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that bay looks like a total hack job. sorry dude.
and i don't see two turbos sitting there. bad pic.

Kamin is right- the rb26dett will NOT fit with the TT design, as it will hit the **** on the drivers side of the car. it will fit a RHD car, because the **** it hits is now on the other side of the firewall.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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http://www.back-yard-productions.com/ES31.jpg
http://www.silviaspeed.com/
http://www.nissanforums.com/sh...=8979
http://www.racingworks.com/vtec.html
http://www.xatracing.com/nissanengine.html
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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The 2jz would be a sweet swap to see in a 240, however I'm guessing around 10 all said and done. Needs a lot of custom work, mounts, driveshaft, wiring, ecu. It makes for a very interesting ordeal. But once again, take it out and pop the hood and you have a something to talk about. Personally I would say go with a nissan motor to begin with (bolt in).
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HEAD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have no idea what it is going to cost, but I am going to be doing this to my 91'240, I think for the guys that are happy with 12's or even 11's it would not be worth the money or time to do this you can reach your goals as we can see with the sr20 or the rb26 but if you want to make big power-in the neiborhood of 800+ and not spend 30,000 on the engine alone the 2JZ is the only way to go. you can acheive 800hp with a completly stock short block and were making about 1600hp right now with the bullish motors and they have stock cranks in them the skyline crank comes apart with about 700hp and a good crank costs 5 grand!
I choose this because I love the 2JZ and the looks of the Nissan, I cannot afford the Supra and I would not be happy with performance of the Nissan. I think the 2JZ is the most cost effective motor to build for high horsepower applications.</TD></TR></TABLE>

First of all I am not arguing your point. What I am going to mention is...WHO THE **** NEEDS THAT MUCH HP?? 700hp Isn't enough?? I have no clue as to how you would drive something with even 500HP to the closest 7-11. HAHA.

With that mentioned. Dude stick with the Nissan powerplant and save $$ and hassle.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pissedoffsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that bay looks like a total hack job. sorry dude.
and i don't see two turbos sitting there. bad pic.

Kamin is right- the rb26dett will NOT fit with the TT design, as it will hit the **** on the drivers side of the car. it will fit a RHD car, because the **** it hits is now on the other side of the firewall.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its looks like a hack job because they are putting in the wiring harness (pic was taken when car was being put together)

Skyline turbos are SMALL
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Its looks like a hack job because they are putting in the wiring harness (pic was taken when car was being put together)

Skyline turbos are SMALL
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crintegrex is right. we hadn't ran the wiring harnes into the firewall yet, and the turbos are small. the rb26 isn't much bigger than the ka24, its just longer and it is much lighter.

i'll get a better picture of the turbos for ya
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fried_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So that's an AWD engine in a 240 that's been converted over to RWD? If so, isn't it smarter to just start already with a RWD Skyline engine? (I'm just curious) Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the rb26 is much easer to find here in the states, and cheeper from what i'v found
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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actually rb25 are more easier to get a hold of....
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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i guess it just depends on where you live. here in reno you can find rb26's really easy. there's a guy here that has a warehouse full of them. but he would have to ship the rb25's from japan and it would be more expensive. just depends on where you live and who you know.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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Wait how is this possible? The GTR AWD engine easy(er) and cheap(er) to get a hold of than the rb25? So this means more R34s are imported than the cars with rb25 engine in it? Hows that possible? I'm really confused...
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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I guarentee that the car is still twin turbo and we can get more pics tonight of how clean the engine bay is. don't tell me that you're car has never looked that "hacked" up when in the middle of a swap! IT's twin turbo and rear wheel drive and in reno(&lt;important part) where we live it is easier to get a rb26dett than a rb25. I'm not saying that is true through out the country but here it is, and bigger is always better any ways right? no replacement for displacement. would you rather have a 1.7gsr or a 1.8gsr. exactly!!! I think that stock rb26dett numbers speak for themselves and guarentee to easily put this car into the low 12's as it sits.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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you cannot compare the b17 to b18.....

and rb25 is far inferior to the rb26... and you know that.....

well how about this a d16 v a b16... no difference in displacement.....

but you get the point....

yeha in some areas rb26 are dime a dozen like us cali folks get the rb25 like sr20....

please post up more pics...
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