I have an EJ8 and I will buy TEIN SS or FF v2. Can you guys help me our which ones? My car, as you can see, is really high, special on rear...and now I stripped everything out on the back (tire, seats...)...I guess its now even worse . Car is sittin on stock shocks and H&R springs.

I heard teins dont go as low as F&F...but can I go as low as fender is on Teins? I dont wanna go lower.

Tnx for help

 

i'm also debating on this too, but i know you can go pretty darn low on f2 than teins

 

i own tein ss on my ej8, and yes they can go lower than the fender. you can even dump them. they are excellent on handling, but the about them is that they are a tad stiff. these were my first suspensions, so im not too sure on how others are, like f2s and koni yellows w/ ground controls.

since i've heard so many good things about koni yellows w/ gc, i would like to try those next if these ever wear out on me. f2s seem to be a recent product so im not going to go straight to them yet. koni yellows w/ gc has been around just as long as tein ss. but its all up to you.

plus, ive had these for about a good 4-5 years on the car and they are still running strong.

 

GC's with koni yellows. Theres nothing more to say bro. if you want to go a little cheaper i would go with the kyb agx's. I"m running them on my ej8 with GC's and the ride quality is great. I"m using the default spring rates from GC so if you want a tad stiffer ride i would go with custom spring rates. Overall though i love my ride, everybody who rides in it says its the closes they've ridden to stock. I'm about 2inchs prolly even more all around.

as for the f2's i know ride quality is going to be very rough...tell you that much.

pli...i picked up some 6way adj full coilovers from omni, bolted them on, sold them 2 days later haha...full coilovers have great handling ability but they just ride too harsh for me...i feel you man, dump those when they wear out and pick up the GC's with konis

i'm rocking a FBP EJ8 too haha...em1 clone though haha...



Modified by bmoua at 10:38 PM 4/18/2007

 

o yea your car looks way clean bro....you need a rear lip though haha...

 

i have so much thread left on the suspensions (atleast 10 more thread lines that i could go atleast 2 more inches).

btw, heres my em1 replica

 

perfect.....and super clean

Tell me what are you sitting on? TEIN SS?
BTW: what rims are those? got colour code?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n1ghthawk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">perfect.....and super clean

Tell me what are you sitting on? TEIN SS?
BTW: what rims are those? got colour code?</TD></TR></TABLE>

what rims are you sitting on night hawk haha...hes ^ sitting on i believe rota boosts but i'm not 100% sure

 

mines are OEM EDM 99-00 ITRs.....I bought them along with my complete 5lug conversion

I want to know what suspension setup is he running

 

cmon guys, I need more votes

tein SS or F&F v2?

 

I personally have the Tein SS-P. I enjoy them. My wheels are tucking just a tad bit but i know they can go further. I don't want my tires to rub. I say go with Tein.

 

P is for Pillow Mount? If I understand correctly, that is instead of camber kits right? some kind of substitute...

 

I have the tein basics and love the ride, hooked my homie up SS and he loved the ride too. MInes been on for about 4-5 years also. I'm on cali roads so you know they're not exactly perfect lol.

As for the pillow mounts I don't think they come with them (don't quote me on that tho). As far as them doing anything, I don't think they do (again don't quote me on that lol).

 

I have both...I rode Tein SS for about a good year or two. They were a very comfortable ride comparing it to my AMR suspension. For those who dont know what AMR are, they are pretty much the same as f&f. They take the shock body and put on their own spring rate on. Usually a little higher then what F&F has theirs. My Tein ss could go pretty low, but wasn't strong enough to keep my car up from rubbing against the fender when i take turns.

Now that i'm on AMR, i am lower then what i had the car b4 on Tein and i have no problem on taking corners hard. But i must say, it's not exactly the most comfortable ride you can get. It's actually VERY stiff. But on the flip side...its like it's on rails when it corners good for autox but not mountain runs...

To make it short...Both very good suspension set up...Depends on what you want i guess....

 

I'm in the same boat. Tein SS-P, F/F, Koni/GC.

bumped for more input!

 

I heart F2's

 

Ive decided for koni/GC combo. cant wait to get them

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JFG Kevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have both...I rode Tein SS for about a good year or two. They were a very comfortable ride comparing it to my AMR suspension. For those who dont know what AMR are, they are pretty much the same as f&f. They take the shock body and put on their own spring rate on. Usually a little higher then what F&F has theirs. My Tein ss could go pretty low, but wasn't strong enough to keep my car up from rubbing against the fender when i take turns.

Now that i'm on AMR, i am lower then what i had the car b4 on Tein and i have no problem on taking corners hard. But i must say, it's not exactly the most comfortable ride you can get. It's actually VERY stiff. But on the flip side...its like it's on rails when it corners good for autox but not mountain runs...

To make it short...Both very good suspension set up...Depends on what you want i guess....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont know a whole lot about suspension, but cant you adjust the spring and shock to compromise between stiff/soft suspension for w/e situation you might be in? Since these are adjustable, I'm sure your not just left with one option (ride quality or handling)

 

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I dont know a whole lot about suspension, but cant you adjust the spring and shock to compromise between stiff/soft suspension for w/e situation you might be in? Since these are adjustable, I'm sure your not just left with one option (ride quality or handling)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's a picture how and why my ride quality is the way it is.



What you said is true, my coilover are fully adjustable so the ride quality can very depending on how i have it set up. That is the lowest i've went with that suspension and that's how I have it daily. It can still get lower in the front and alot lower in the back. But what that picture how it's sitting it's a very rough ride. I have the shocks set up at it's stiffest. I can turn down the stiffness all the way down and itll just jump and hop around alot more.

I've also had this car sitting alot higher like it's sitting on some Eibach prokit. When I had it set up like that with the shock all the way soft. It was a much much better ride. It wasn't a stock ride feel but it was definately night and day. I also done the same with the Tein SS. They felt very soft and stock when i raised it up and set the shocks to the softest...

 

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Here's a picture how and why my ride quality is the way it is.



What you said is true, my coilover are fully adjustable so the ride quality can very depending on how i have it set up. That is the lowest i've went with that suspension and that's how I have it daily. It can still get lower in the front and alot lower in the back. But what that picture how it's sitting it's a very rough ride. I have the shocks set up at it's stiffest. I can turn down the stiffness all the way down and itll just jump and hop around alot more.

I've also had this car sitting alot higher like it's sitting on some Eibach prokit. When I had it set up like that with the shock all the way soft. It was a much much better ride. It wasn't a stock ride feel but it was definately night and day. I also done the same with the Tein SS. They felt very soft and stock when i raised it up and set the shocks to the softest...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well from what i understand, when your ride is pretty much slammed, the ride quality is going to suck. When you turned the "stiffness down" anotherwords you adjusted it to be softer, so why wouldnt it hop around more than stiff?

Whats with everyone saying "close to stock" when dealing with ride quality? If the stock springs are that good for ride why dont companies copy that design and just improve on handling features for adjustability?

 

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Well from what i understand, when your ride is pretty much slammed, the ride quality is going to suck. When you turned the "stiffness down" anotherwords you adjusted it to be softer, so why wouldnt it hop around more than stiff?

Whats with everyone saying "close to stock" when dealing with ride quality? If the stock springs are that good for ride why dont companies copy that design and just improve on handling features for adjustability?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yah...the quality of the ride when your slammed is going to get worst when you go lower...Mainly because of the preload on the shock itself. People compare the ride quality to "close to stock" is because there is really nothing else you can compare it to...You can't really say....oh it's really soft....or its really hard...how do people know how soft or hard it really is? Most people know how stock feels like so we just compare it to that...

 

This might be biased so im not gonna say much. But i rode on TEIN SS before the start of our company, so i had a back to back comparison. And still do on a daily basis. And everybodies opinion is different, since we all have different tolerances.

If u want comfort, and a soft suspension go with the TEIN SS, But u wont get that low, they arent made to dump ur car, if u do ur shortening your shock travel alot, and ur ride quality goes to hell soon, since there is no seperate ride height adjustment from the spring pre-load adjustment.

Also which F2 suspension are you comparing them too? The type I or type II.... The type II should be compared with something like the TEIN FLEX, since many of our customers have tried them back to back with the FLEX and gave us rave reviews. The type I i compared (discontinued) with the SS because of the price point.

But if we are talking the type II, man.......... not even the same

And alot of people talking about the harsh ride are talking about TYPE I, i have yet to hear that about the type II and our type II goes pretty low, to me thats irrelevant, but to alot of people they love that.

Also the Flex, SS, Basic tend to have very soft spring rates. Some complain about that, some like it, it just depends on your taste and your needs. They are a great company, just do some research and ask around, and make the purchase based on what suits your needs when u gather all of your info.

 

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Yah...the quality of the ride when your slammed is going to get worst when you go lower...Mainly because of the preload on the shock itself. People compare the ride quality to "close to stock" is because there is really nothing else you can compare it to...You can't really say....oh it's really soft....or its really hard...how do people know how soft or hard it really is? Most people know how stock feels like so we just compare it to that...</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha yeah thats true. My first setup where some stock shocks and aerospeed coilovers **** sucked *** lol. Second setup was some tokico blues and vis2 coilovers with some springs for integs. Ride was crazy stiff. You could go over a bump and you would feel it. You wouldn't bounce though lol. Well my third and pretty much last setup was the tein basic. And this was years ago. I like it cause it handles well and has kept me safe, also girls say it's the best ride in a civic or integ ever. There where bumps where normal suspension would've let the car slam or something but the basics didn't.

I do agree with the lowered too low and rubing on taking turns. It's happen to me a few times. I think regaurdless of what you get if you slam it the ride is going to be worse. There's a point where lowering your car isn't that effective for racing etc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pworld &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This might be biased so im not gonna say much. But i rode on TEIN SS before the start of our company, so i had a back to back comparison. And still do on a daily basis. And everybodies opinion is different, since we all have different tolerances.

If u want comfort, and a soft suspension go with the TEIN SS, But u wont get that low, they arent made to dump ur car, if u do ur shortening your shock travel alot, and ur ride quality goes to hell soon, since there is no seperate ride height adjustment from the spring pre-load adjustment.

Also which F2 suspension are you comparing them too? The type I or type II.... The type II should be compared with something like the TEIN FLEX, since many of our customers have tried them back to back with the FLEX and gave us rave reviews. The type I i compared (discontinued) with the SS because of the price point.

But if we are talking the type II, man.......... not even the same

And alot of people talking about the harsh ride are talking about TYPE I, i have yet to hear that about the type II and our type II goes pretty low, to me thats irrelevant, but to alot of people they love that.

Also the Flex, SS, Basic tend to have very soft spring rates. Some complain about that, some like it, it just depends on your taste and your needs. They are a great company, just do some research and ask around, and make the purchase based on what suits your needs when u gather all of your info. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the type I on my car and i can surely agree that it's a very harsh ride. But I love the way it handles, no body roll at all and no problem with rubbing when slammed. Are the type II just as good? or they have softer spring rates which will give me some body roll there..Correct me if i'm wrong.

 

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I have the type I on my car and i can surely agree that it's a very harsh ride. But I love the way it handles, no body roll at all and no problem with rubbing when slammed. Are the type II just as good? or they have softer spring rates which will give me some body roll there..Correct me if i'm wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Type II will give u the same handling, but without the harshness. and they will allow u to go lower without touching the preload adjustments (using the lower mount adjustment only).