I just bought some Function 7 LCA's from DavidR (Projectzum.com), Whom is an awesome guy to deal with. Also the function 7's are an awesome quality product. I believe I have version 3 of the LCA. Anyways I have a couple of questions now since im getting ready to install them. I also bought the ASR subframe combo that came with the asr brace, 22mm sway bar, and oem endlinks.



I tried to test fit the oem endlinks into the middle upper hole of the Function 7 LCA and the bolt that goes through the LCA is just a little bit to short to mount the nut on the other side. Should I be mounting them in one of the other holes?

Click Here to see a pic of LCA...http://www.kingmotorsports.com...75421

It seems that the Function 7 LCA's are to thick to use OEM endlinks. So what do I do now? Suck it up and spend another $55 bucks to buy there endlinks and hope they work?



Why didnt they tell me that I needed to order there endlinks when I bought these things? Also do i need to buy the Function7 Rear Sway Bar Bushing Set to make these things compatible with my sway bar?

All items are pictured on this page... http://https://www.kingmotorsp...at=12


Modified by Type Ek at 3:58 PM 7/26/2007

 

Just send them back and use your stock lca's.

That's a stinker that they're too think for the OEM endlinks.

I would have never guessed them to be too short.

 

i would like to know also before i buy the LCAs!! I'm gonna get them for a EG..

 

Anyone word from the function 7 pepz?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gabebauman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just send them back and use your stock lca's.

That's a stinker that they're too think for the OEM endlinks.

I would have never guessed them to be too short.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Our sway bar mounting points are thicker because the arms are aluminum. Our design analysis did indicate that if we made it thin in order to use the stock linkages, the mounting point would be a point of failure on the EK arms, especially when beefy race sway bars are used. Therefore we designed a thicker mounting hole to prevent the sway bar from ripping out at the sway bar mounting hole. The result is a bulletproof design, plus improved dynamic performance since there is less flex at the mounting hole.

Our arms are compatible with the heim type linkages that comes with the ASR kits so if you bought an ASR kit, it should have come with ball joint linkages similar (but not identical) to our linkages.

For the EG/EF/DC arms, you can use stock linkages, however you are limited to using the stock mounting postition (i.e. no adjustability feature). The bottom sway bar linkage bolt will have to be replaced with a longer 10mm bolt plus a nut on the other side.

I hope this answers your questions.

-A

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Manolo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would like to know also before i buy the LCAs!! I'm gonna get them for a EG..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can use the EG linkages with our arms but you cannot use the adjustable stiffness feature with the stock linkages. You will need to replace the lower bolt of the stock sway bar linkage with a longer 10mm bolt and a nut on the other side.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions.

-A

 

PM Sent!

 

Function 7, what mounting hole on the ek rear lca's should be used to mount the endlink....What is closest to stock settings?

 

The center hole that is middle of the LCA is closest to the factory position, but I'd recommend the top middle hole.

 

great, i just ordered OEM 99-00 si endlinks for my f7 links and asr brace, i cannot believe no one has said these wont work. You will learn to hate the f7 endlinks, let us know when they become extremely loud. I guess all thats left to try are the BLOX endlinks

 

Actually with my setup I ended up buying the new BLOX endlinks (w/Heim joints) before I installed them because I saw the gap that the Function 7 endlinks have, thus making the gingeling sounds. The blox endlinks use longer bolts just as the f7's do (OEM endlinks use a smaller bolt & dont work with F7 lca's) but the BLOX endlinks have threads all the way down to the heim joint and are a very similiar design. Im very please with my new setup and its actually really quiet.

Function 7 LCA's

BLOX Endlinks

Function 7 Endlinks (made in china)



K-Sport's + ASR Brace + Function 7 LCA's + OEM 22mm Sway bar + Blox Endlinks =



Modified by Type Ek at 2:06 AM 8/11/2007

 

Having thread all the way "up" to the ball in the linkage is insignificant, if you have them that short, they will be too large of an angle and will bind. What "gap" are you talking about? Blox endlinks are probably made by some company in china too, maybe the Chinese government won't let them put "China" on it due to quality controls? &lt;shrug&gt;

Seriously, the blox endlinks looks JUST like the Function7s, but the important information like misalignment and load capacity are unknown, as is the type of "ball" and liner in that joint. Do a little research on Heim joints and you'll be surprised there are really cheap ones out there, and then really expensive.

 

sweet! now i can pick up some f7 lca's and blox end links for my ek! w00t!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Having thread all the way "up" to the ball in the linkage is insignificant, if you have them that short, they will be too large of an angle and will bind. What "gap" are you talking about? Blox endlinks are probably made by some company in china too, maybe the Chinese government won't let them put "China" on it due to quality controls? &lt;shrug&gt;

Seriously, the blox endlinks looks JUST like the Function7s, but the important information like misalignment and load capacity are unknown, as is the type of "ball" and liner in that joint. Do a little research on Heim joints and you'll be surprised there are really cheap ones out there, and then really expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The "GAP" that i am talking about is on the black bolt that goes through the heim joint. It doesnt have threads all the way down to the head of the bolt. The threads stop about 1/4 of the way before the head of the bolt leaving a "GAP".



My bloxs enlinks are not binding in any way. Also I did do my research on these joints and found that Function 7 doesnt even associate the Heim joints that they sell with quality function 7 products, like there lca's and such.

As quoted from Function7 on this locked thread: https://honda-tech.com/zero...13547

Yup, except the endlinks - we do not make these parts and so we don't really brand them as a Function7 product since they are universally available off-the-shelf components. As I mentioned earlier, we only made these kits available for the convenience of our customers who use them with our arms.

Plain and simple....."I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE FUNCTION 7 ENDLINKS!"


Modified by Type Ek at 12:21 AM 8/12/2007

 

heres what my junk f7 endlinks look like after less than 1 year of use, we got 0 snow (snow brings salty roads) this year, and these have already been wire brush cleaned once. The bolts were seized up from being rusted so badly.

 

Did those nylon washers take away the gingeling sound?

 

I just put them on there, didnt even try them, i just said screw it.

 

my function 7 end links too sucks *** and are all jacked up.....

 

yikes!! Did you use anti-seize the 1st time you installed them and then the next time after wire brushing them? I have them too, but I always use anti-seize and I've already changed the hardware to Stainless.

 

nah i didnt use any anti seize. didnt think about it. I might have to keep this pos's just so i can run my sway bar

 

How is everyone keeping the nut on the end of the endlink on without them wiggeling there way off? Locktite? any other ideas?

 

i didnt need any loctite, the rust was way strong enough

 

Also do the nuts have torque spec's?

 

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type Ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually with my setup I ended up buying the new BLOX endlinks (w/Heim joints) before I installed them because I saw the gap that the Function 7 endlinks have, thus making the gingeling sounds. The blox endlinks use longer bolts just as the f7's do (OEM endlinks use a smaller bolt & dont work with F7 lca's) but the BLOX endlinks have threads all the way down to the heim joint and are a very similiar design. Im very please with my new setup and its actually really quiet.

Function 7 LCA's

BLOX Endlinks

Function 7 Endlinks (made in china)



K-Sport's + ASR Brace + Function 7 LCA's + OEM 22mm Sway bar + Blox Endlinks =

Modified by Type Ek at 2:06 AM 8/11/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

ANY PICTURES OF THE BLOX ENDLINKS INSTALL &gt;&gt; VERY INTERESTED.. I'VE HAD SO MANY ISSUES JUST TRYING TO PUT THEM ON. JUST DIDNT SEE RITE...