Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
#1
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Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
Hey there guys
It is finally time to replace my upper balljoints on my car. I have some bolt in ball joints that rotate to adjust camber. I've never been a fan of them. They're basically these ones: More Information for MAS B90492
Nice and cheap. They have a lot of play already. I've had them for maybe 3-4 years.
I'm looking to either replace them with another set, as they're only like $24 each, or upgrade to something better.
Moog upper ball joint, with either Ingalls camber kit or another version off Rock Auto. Ball joints would be $40 each, plus 88 each for the Ingalls kit, so about ~$250 total.
Mevotech also sells a camber kit, but I don't know how good it is.
That brings me to HardRace. About $233 + shipping. Heard great things.
Skunk2 is NOT an option. I do not like their design at all.
Any opinions or other options I'm missing? This is for a daily driver.
TL;DR need front adjustable camber, hate skunk2, give me opinions
Reason: My frame is a little tweaked, so I need the camber adjustment. Also I'm lowered. Factory parts don't put me in spec without adjustability.
It is finally time to replace my upper balljoints on my car. I have some bolt in ball joints that rotate to adjust camber. I've never been a fan of them. They're basically these ones: More Information for MAS B90492
Nice and cheap. They have a lot of play already. I've had them for maybe 3-4 years.
I'm looking to either replace them with another set, as they're only like $24 each, or upgrade to something better.
Moog upper ball joint, with either Ingalls camber kit or another version off Rock Auto. Ball joints would be $40 each, plus 88 each for the Ingalls kit, so about ~$250 total.
Mevotech also sells a camber kit, but I don't know how good it is.
That brings me to HardRace. About $233 + shipping. Heard great things.
Skunk2 is NOT an option. I do not like their design at all.
Any opinions or other options I'm missing? This is for a daily driver.
TL;DR need front adjustable camber, hate skunk2, give me opinions
Reason: My frame is a little tweaked, so I need the camber adjustment. Also I'm lowered. Factory parts don't put me in spec without adjustability.
#2
Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
The PCI kit looks nice but you don't really need it for a daily driver. The cons (cost, reduced suspension travel and durability) outweigh the pros for that kind of use. If you have a bad frame fix it, don't go for a band aid type solution.
#3
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
Yeah you've listed exactly why I don't want to go with the ball joint bolt on type of kits. I'm well aware. That's why I'm comparing the Ingalls and Hardrace... Thanks for the input.
#6
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
Exactly... The frame has been like this for the 6 years I've owned the car. It's very minor, but it does affect my alignment.
This is pretty typical though. I came here for advice on camber kits, and people say to fix my frame. That's great guys, expected more, especially from Tyson. Reminds me why I don't frequent H-T anymore.
I'm just gonna go with the Hardrace pieces. Expensive, but at least I hopefully won't have to replace the ball joints for 5+ years.
This is pretty typical though. I came here for advice on camber kits, and people say to fix my frame. That's great guys, expected more, especially from Tyson. Reminds me why I don't frequent H-T anymore.
I'm just gonna go with the Hardrace pieces. Expensive, but at least I hopefully won't have to replace the ball joints for 5+ years.
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#8
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
Tweaked. If it was as bad as you're thinking it was, it would NOT have passed the last inspection it went though. It's a 28 year old car that rear ended something at some point in its life.
I'm doing pretty damn good in life, thanks for asking... This is one of 3 Hondas.
Look, it's so terrible OMGGGG
Maybe one day I'll fix the frame, but it doesn't affect anything except for a little camber... so I don't see a point.
You're right though, it's a jalopy.
Thanks for playing.
#9
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
Wow, that's a major dick statement. If you equate one's owning of a nice, or shitty Honda to "life status" then that's sad. Are we still trying to "own" everyone else around here? Did I miss the memo, or mission statement in the terms of use agreement?
#11
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
I still don't get why op doesn't want to fix the problem. And not band aid it.
And what's with trying to get camber "in spec". Your ride height isn't "in spec" what makes you think camber needs to be?
And what's with trying to get camber "in spec". Your ride height isn't "in spec" what makes you think camber needs to be?
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#13
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
It isn't worth spending tons of money on this car's body. Maybe some day, but not for a long time... I've got other, more important things to spend money on, and it isn't the only vehicle I drive either.
#14
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
I still don't get it.
why all the ******* attitude?
You asked a question. And now you're just being a bitch for not getting the answer you want to hear.
Choose whatever camber kit you want. You really don't need one if you just fixed your real issue.
But i got it, you need to know the best kits to score points hard parking.
why all the ******* attitude?
You asked a question. And now you're just being a bitch for not getting the answer you want to hear.
Choose whatever camber kit you want. You really don't need one if you just fixed your real issue.
But i got it, you need to know the best kits to score points hard parking.
#15
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
I still don't get it.
why all the ******* attitude?
You asked a question. And now you're just being a bitch for not getting the answer you want to hear.
Choose whatever camber kit you want. You really don't need one if you just fixed your real issue.
But i got it, you need to know the best kits to score points hard parking.
why all the ******* attitude?
You asked a question. And now you're just being a bitch for not getting the answer you want to hear.
Choose whatever camber kit you want. You really don't need one if you just fixed your real issue.
But i got it, you need to know the best kits to score points hard parking.
You, Tyson, offered ZERO input on the subject. You have ZERO experience with it. What are you even doing in this thread???
#17
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Re: Front camber kit, Ingalls vs Hardrace
Ingalls work but you will find you'll need to grind the ends of the arm so they don't interfere with the chassis.
You are better off just slotting the holes on OEM UCA and grind as necessary without buying anything else.
Good luck.
You are better off just slotting the holes on OEM UCA and grind as necessary without buying anything else.
Good luck.
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