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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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I know how to cut them, just wondering if I am throwing on aftermarket springs with stock struts, do you need to cut them ? Or do you only need to cut them when your putting in aftermarket struts.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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You need to cut them when you "lower" the car. This keeps you from riding on them. Never use less than 1" of bump stop (I would use more though).
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Thanks, I found the instructions and Neuspeed springs are designed to use the stock bumpstops with out cutting them.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need to cut them when you "lower" the car. This keeps you from riding on them. Never use less than 1" of bump stop (I would use more though).</TD></TR></TABLE>


if cut off the bumpstops wont it reduce the life the shocks by reducing shock travel by half an inch.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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cutting the bump stops would increase pistol travel. if the pistons bottom out you will destroy the strut. keep atleast an inch of the bump stop.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnbuckle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cutting the bump stops would increase pistol travel. if the pistons bottom out you will destroy the strut. keep atleast an inch of the bump stop. </TD></TR></TABLE>

With the neuspeed springs your suppose to leave the bunpstops stock, no cutting at.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

With the neuspeed springs your suppose to leave the bunpstops stock, no cutting at.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to cut them when you "lower" the car. This keeps you from riding on them. Never use less than 1" of bump stop (I would use more though). by:94eg!

so which one is it?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_type_r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You need to cut them when you "lower" the car. This keeps you from riding on them. Never use less than 1" of bump stop (I would use more though). by:94eg!

so which one is it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I just bought neuspeed lowering springs and it tells me in bold letters not to cut them.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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i didnt cut mine with sportlines.. no problems at all.. no noise. just shocks are blow now. after 3000 miles
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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what kind of struts do you have. if the spring rates are too high for the struts then the struts will wear out prematurely. OE struts or aftermarket OE type struts are usually not stiff enough to use with lowering springs.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnbuckle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of struts do you have. if the spring rates are too high for the struts then the struts will wear out prematurely. OE struts or aftermarket OE type struts are usually not stiff enough to use with lowering springs.

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There stock, and yes I am aware stock struts are not suppose to be used and I know it will make them wear down quicker.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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I purchased my 94cx at 88k miles. I lowered it 2.25" at 100k with ground controls (400f/250r). At 150k, I put on some koni sports. All 4 of my OEM shocks were in good condition when I removed them. We do have pretty good streets here in vegas though (I drive carfully too)...
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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On another note, those back bolts are horrible, ended up torching them out and had to buy new bushings. And I can't beleive Honda charges 8 bucks per bolt.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On another note, those back bolts are horrible, ended up torching them out and had to buy new bushings. And I can't beleive Honda charges 8 bucks per bolt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you mean the LCA bolts that came on the car from the factory (if so, those do suck ***)?
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do you mean the LCA bolts that came on the car from the factory (if so, those do suck ***)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

come on... you're in vegas. you can't pretend to know about the horrendous rust build up that we have to deal with on old cars up here in the northeast. my last CRX was an '89 from florida and you could take everything apart on that car by hand. two winters up here in new york and i was breaking out the torch just to get my tie rods to turn... ugh.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do you mean the LCA bolts that came on the car from the factory (if so, those do suck ***)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep those are the bolts

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnbuckle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

come on... you're in vegas. you can't pretend to know about the horrendous rust build up that we have to deal with on old cars up here in the northeast. my last CRX was an '89 from florida and you could take everything apart on that car by hand. two winters up here in new york and i was breaking out the torch just to get my tie rods to turn... ugh. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is the weird thing, when I did mine on my 1990 crx and on my girlfriends 89 crx I did not have a problem with the bolts, I just did springs on a 2000 civic and I had a major problem. Even a torch was not getting the job down, I put 700ft lbs of torque on them and they just kept breaking sockets.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnbuckle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

come on... you're in vegas. you can't pretend to know about the horrendous rust build up that we have to deal with on old cars up here in the northeast. my last CRX was an '89 from florida and you could take everything apart on that car by hand. two winters up here in new york and i was breaking out the torch just to get my tie rods to turn... ugh. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You would think that, but those bolts are so ******* lame that even here in Vegas we snap at least 1 head off on every car...

Dry vegas weather does take good care of your cars though.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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so which neuspeed springs did u get the race or the sports?
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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The customer went with race, but I can get them all for the same price.


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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The customer went with race, but I can get them all for the same price.


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if u can belive i didnt cut my bumpstops eithor for my race springs with agx's and its not to bad, im planing on cuting them in half the next time i have it all apart again.
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