94 RS Turbo - Help with Kit List!!!!
This kit below was used on a 93si (B16a) and I would like to know if this setup would be good for 94 Integra RS (B18B). Would everything fit into place? Also any opinions appreciated on the parts listed below....Thanks
-Greddy - Turbo 05h-18g c/w Internal Gate
Serial No. 020424027
M.F.D. No. 49178-05150
-Greddy Turbo manifold c/w greddy heat shield– manifold has been ceramic coated(black) at http://www.fireballcoatings.com
-Greddy Stainless steel oil feed line c/w off the block T-setup
-(-10) SS oil return line c/w AN fittings. (1) straight and (1)45° bend. Also included is a custom oil fitting to fit the Greddy turbo.
-Stainless steel All IC piping c/w couplers & band clamps
-ROFL BOV
-Johnny Racer Style Front Mount Intercooler c/w with mounting brackets/ bolts/ washers/ nuts. Intercooler has been modded to the “backdoor setup”. For those who are not aware of what this is…please see pics.
-440cc RC injectors c/w injector clips
-Autometer boost gauge_ silver face c/w mounting pod & hose
-Autometer EGT gauge & electronic probe c/w mounting pod
-Hondata s200 c/w boost…this also includes my program that can be used as a basemap.
- 3” Stainless steel (304 grade) downpipe c/w quick release tri-clamp ferrule connections(gasket and clamps included) & bolts, nuts, and washers. Down pipe also included two O2 bungs, one for regular O2 sensor and one for wideband tuning. This downpipe was custom made to mate up to a greddy turbo. Very rare.
-Greddy - Turbo 05h-18g c/w Internal Gate
Serial No. 020424027
M.F.D. No. 49178-05150
-Greddy Turbo manifold c/w greddy heat shield– manifold has been ceramic coated(black) at http://www.fireballcoatings.com
-Greddy Stainless steel oil feed line c/w off the block T-setup
-(-10) SS oil return line c/w AN fittings. (1) straight and (1)45° bend. Also included is a custom oil fitting to fit the Greddy turbo.
-Stainless steel All IC piping c/w couplers & band clamps
-ROFL BOV
-Johnny Racer Style Front Mount Intercooler c/w with mounting brackets/ bolts/ washers/ nuts. Intercooler has been modded to the “backdoor setup”. For those who are not aware of what this is…please see pics.
-440cc RC injectors c/w injector clips
-Autometer boost gauge_ silver face c/w mounting pod & hose
-Autometer EGT gauge & electronic probe c/w mounting pod
-Hondata s200 c/w boost…this also includes my program that can be used as a basemap.
- 3” Stainless steel (304 grade) downpipe c/w quick release tri-clamp ferrule connections(gasket and clamps included) & bolts, nuts, and washers. Down pipe also included two O2 bungs, one for regular O2 sensor and one for wideband tuning. This downpipe was custom made to mate up to a greddy turbo. Very rare.
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-Greddy - Turbo 05h-18g c/w Internal Gate
-Greddy Turbo manifold c/w greddy heat shield
-Greddy Stainless steel oil feed line c/w off the block T-setup
-(-10) SS oil return line c/w AN fittings. (1) straight and (1)45° bend. Also included is a custom oil fitting to fit the Greddy turbo.
-Stainless steel All IC piping c/w couplers & band clamps
-ROFL BOV
-Johnny Racer Style Front Mount Intercooler c/w with mounting brackets/ bolts/ washers/ nuts. Intercooler has been modded to the “backdoor setup”. For those who are not aware of what this is…please see pics.
-440cc RC injectors c/w injector clips
-Autometer boost gauge_ silver face c/w mounting pod & hose
-Autometer EGT gauge & electronic probe c/w mounting pod
-Hondata s200 c/w boost…this also includes my program that can be used as a basemap.
- 3” Stainless steel (304 grade) downpipe c/w quick release tri-clamp ferrule connections(gasket and clamps included) & bolts, nuts, and washers. Down pipe also included two O2 bungs, one for regular O2 sensor and one for wideband tuning. This downpipe was custom made to mate up to a greddy turbo. Very rare.
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I know the piping wont fit and youre goin to have to custom fit it.
That is a small turbo and i would recommend a t3/t4.. or a t3 at the least, but that should be fine if you want a small turbo thats tuned. I don't think its worth buying this kit, but if its cheap... then its all good.
-Greddy - Turbo 05h-18g c/w Internal Gate
-Greddy Turbo manifold c/w greddy heat shield
-Greddy Stainless steel oil feed line c/w off the block T-setup
-(-10) SS oil return line c/w AN fittings. (1) straight and (1)45° bend. Also included is a custom oil fitting to fit the Greddy turbo.
-Stainless steel All IC piping c/w couplers & band clamps
-ROFL BOV
-Johnny Racer Style Front Mount Intercooler c/w with mounting brackets/ bolts/ washers/ nuts. Intercooler has been modded to the “backdoor setup”. For those who are not aware of what this is…please see pics.
-440cc RC injectors c/w injector clips
-Autometer boost gauge_ silver face c/w mounting pod & hose
-Autometer EGT gauge & electronic probe c/w mounting pod
-Hondata s200 c/w boost…this also includes my program that can be used as a basemap.
- 3” Stainless steel (304 grade) downpipe c/w quick release tri-clamp ferrule connections(gasket and clamps included) & bolts, nuts, and washers. Down pipe also included two O2 bungs, one for regular O2 sensor and one for wideband tuning. This downpipe was custom made to mate up to a greddy turbo. Very rare.
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I know the piping wont fit and youre goin to have to custom fit it.
That is a small turbo and i would recommend a t3/t4.. or a t3 at the least, but that should be fine if you want a small turbo thats tuned. I don't think its worth buying this kit, but if its cheap... then its all good.
Another quick question, since this is a smaller turbo then I expected, What RPM would I start loosing power? I would like to pull between 220 - 250 hp with this setup, if it's possible at 5-7psi.
Modified by Bicalho at 11:10 AM 9/23/2004
Modified by Bicalho at 11:10 AM 9/23/2004
that would be very hard to squeez 220-250hp off that small turbo at 5 psi. i would go with the t3\t4 that is where the power is. you can pick up a t3\t4 for like $300 rebuilt of corse.
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you can hit that power goal w/ that turbo kit, but you might want to bump up the boost to 9-10psi .
Here's a dyno plot of a car boosted-hybrid tuned.
Car: 1995 Integra LS
Engine: Completely bone stock LS engine with close to 150,000 miles on it.
Mods: Greddy turbo kit, front mount, B18bflip 2.5" downpipe, 3" thermal exhaust, RC 550cc injectors, Hondata, Blitz SBC boost controller.
Tuning at 10psi:
Here's a dyno plot of a car boosted-hybrid tuned.
Car: 1995 Integra LS
Engine: Completely bone stock LS engine with close to 150,000 miles on it.
Mods: Greddy turbo kit, front mount, B18bflip 2.5" downpipe, 3" thermal exhaust, RC 550cc injectors, Hondata, Blitz SBC boost controller.
Tuning at 10psi:
Just curious, Let's say I run the boost at 9 - 10psi like that Dyno Diagram. Would my motor be less reliable then running a T3 Turbo at like 5psi with the same HP?
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i'd say the reliablilty part of it comes in w/ the quality of the parts you're gonna use, maintenance and also a good tuning job w/ the hondata. If you're going to stick w/ your original power goal, i'd go with the kit you're looking at now. But as you know, boost is addicting and i'm sure you'll want to go up in power, best bet is to get or piece a kit together with a t3 platform. You can stick w/ a straight t3 or go as big as a fullrace t67/t3 turbo.
edit: the 18g is capable of make power but the internal wastegate setup limits you because of spiking issues at higher boost levels
i'd say the reliablilty part of it comes in w/ the quality of the parts you're gonna use, maintenance and also a good tuning job w/ the hondata. If you're going to stick w/ your original power goal, i'd go with the kit you're looking at now. But as you know, boost is addicting and i'm sure you'll want to go up in power, best bet is to get or piece a kit together with a t3 platform. You can stick w/ a straight t3 or go as big as a fullrace t67/t3 turbo.
edit: the 18g is capable of make power but the internal wastegate setup limits you because of spiking issues at higher boost levels
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here's my 2 cents, some1 correct me if im wrong... A "bigger" turbo such as a t3/t4 simply is capable of moving more air then a "-Greddy - Turbo 05h-18g c/w Internal Gate" but both are capable of 9-10+ psi. But 9-10 psi on a t3/t4 wouldn't be the same as a smaller turbo. Its like this... your moving X amount of air at 8 psi with your "-Greddy - Turbo 05h-18g c/w Internal Gate" and your making Y amount of power. your car would be just as realiable or not so realiable with a bigger turbo such as a t3/t4 at the same psi but because the bigger turbo moves more air (cfm) you can make more power at the same psi level as a smaller turbo.
Does all that make any sense?
Does all that make any sense?
Thanks for the help, this is really helping me decide which Turbo to go with. This will be my first Turbo setup at least I know what kind of power I am capable of making but I think boosting over 7 psi on stock internals is looking for trouble. I'll see how the parts are gonna fit this weekend and make a decision next week. In the meantime I'll be posting more amateur questions.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bicalho »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the help, this is really helping me decide which Turbo to go with. This will be my first Turbo setup at least I know what kind of power I am capable of making but I think boosting over 7 psi on stock internals is looking for trouble. I'll see how the parts are gonna fit this weekend and make a decision next week. In the meantime I'll be posting more amateur questions.
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lol sounds good. try looking around the forced induction forum, it helps a log. BTW people boost around 10psi daily w/ no problems as long as they had a good tune.
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lol sounds good. try looking around the forced induction forum, it helps a log. BTW people boost around 10psi daily w/ no problems as long as they had a good tune.
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No matter what turbo you choose to go with or what setup you have, the most important thing is...
1. Whether new or used make sure the parts you have are well maintained, in order to keep each individual part reliable.
2. Quality of the instalation process if key. make sure every nut and bolt is torqued down to proper specs, and don't "ghetto rig" anything, after your done, check then double check, once thats done and your 100% satisfied, check again!
3. and finaly Tune, Tune, Tune...
1. Whether new or used make sure the parts you have are well maintained, in order to keep each individual part reliable.
2. Quality of the instalation process if key. make sure every nut and bolt is torqued down to proper specs, and don't "ghetto rig" anything, after your done, check then double check, once thats done and your 100% satisfied, check again!
3. and finaly Tune, Tune, Tune...
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-Johnny Racer Style Front Mount Intercooler c/w with mounting brackets/ bolts/ washers/ nuts. Intercooler has been modded to the “backdoor setup”. For those who are not aware of what this is…please see pics.
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I am not aware of what this is. Where are the pics?
-Johnny Racer Style Front Mount Intercooler c/w with mounting brackets/ bolts/ washers/ nuts. Intercooler has been modded to the “backdoor setup”. For those who are not aware of what this is…please see pics.
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I am not aware of what this is. Where are the pics?
checked it out yesterday and looks like new, kit comes with everything I need and looks like most of the pipping will fit. I'm gonna make a decision this week if he sells it at the right price.
Modified by Bicalho at 11:28 AM 9/26/2004
Modified by Bicalho at 11:28 AM 9/26/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIK IN DA HED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know the piping wont fit and youre goin to have to custom fit it.
That is a small turbo and i would recommend a t3/t4.. or a t3 at the least, but that should be fine if you want a small turbo thats tuned. I don't think its worth buying this kit, but if its cheap... then its all good.
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small turbo's are awesome, full boost at 2,000rpm, sounds good to me
That is a small turbo and i would recommend a t3/t4.. or a t3 at the least, but that should be fine if you want a small turbo thats tuned. I don't think its worth buying this kit, but if its cheap... then its all good.
</TD></TR></TABLE>small turbo's are awesome, full boost at 2,000rpm, sounds good to me
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