Well I have searched all recent topics and have came close, but nothing has quite answered my question.


So I am selling my gsr hatch and want to go darkside with an integra boosted. I was origionally going to put a K motor in, but with limited funds these are my options.

Ok so I want to keep the internals stock, So would the Ls be a better bet due to its thicker sleeves? I want reliability because thats all I have gotten from my gsr and I love that.

Also how much power can I extract safely with the ls stock internals and will it be better than my 184whp, 130wtq gsr motor w/stock internals as well?

Thanks guys in advance

 

I vote for ls because i have one and im going to do it this winter...only problem with b20 is i heard they dont like to rev

 

I vote ls cause the sleeves are a better design.

 

I vote LS because I'm making over 300hp on race gas and still have great compression and very little leakage, I've ran it for almost a year now, tuned with hondata, with out tuning forget long term reliability. I run 20 psi on 112 octane on a 54 trim 63 a/r., Never pulled off the head original head gasket and everything.

This winter I'll build it and run 25 psi on a big turbo....

 

ls

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbointegra22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I vote LS because I'm making over 300hp on race gas and still have great compression and very little leakage, I've ran it for almost a year now, tuned with hondata, with out tuning forget long term reliability. I run 20 psi on 112 octane on a 54 trim 63 a/r., Never pulled off the head original head gasket and everything.

This winter I'll build it and run 25 psi on a big turbo....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sweet, Thats what I like to hear!

Yea my teg is gonna be a dark night: Black on Black slips, and 1 pantyhosed covered intercooler

 

Also, Should I go with an obd1 motor or obd2? B/c obd1 respond better to add-ons, but also have more mileage and the valve cover has a lego block pattern which I hate. Or could I get the obd2 and get teh conversion or is that too much of a hassle and money?

 

Who the hell voted for the B20? LS/Turbo will defintely be safer than a B20/Turbo. Oh and slap a vtec head on there too... LS/Vtec turbo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who the hell voted for the B20? LS/Turbo will defintely be safer than a B20/Turbo. Oh and slap a vtec head on there too... LS/Vtec turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nahh, I have a gsr now, but i am fine with 300hp on a internally stock motor. **** I am impressed by 184whp, 130tq on my gsr motor in my hatch.
?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcVTEChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, Should I go with an obd1 motor or obd2? B/c obd1 respond better to add-ons, but also have more mileage and the valve cover has a lego block pattern which I hate. Or could I get the obd2 and get teh conversion or is that too much of a hassle and money?</TD></TR></TABLE>

^Ohh and I guess I can just get a newer valve cover right

 

All-motor-b20
F/I-b18b

Simple as that. LS motors respond better to boost and last longer(overall) than b20's. Stock b20's don't like boost.

 

ls turbo gets my vote

 

Im still all for the LS, but there have been a few success stories with the B20.

 

You could just turbo your GSR.

 

I could, but I am in a good situation. My mom is going to pay for the teg with a car loan and then I can use whatever I sell my car for towards parts. Well that is after I pay for school.

 

ls/vtec turbo or just ls.

 

boost isn't reliable. there

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by System-7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boost isn't reliable. there</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only when they have idiot tuners. Stunna.

 

if u boost it make sure its tuned. i have a friend that had a ls stock internals make 400whp @ 20 psi but it was finely tuned. boost is fun but isnt the most reliable route on the other hand i have friends that have been turbo without problems for years...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda13typer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u boost it make sure its tuned. i have a friend that had a ls stock internals make 400whp @ 20 psi but it was finely tuned. boost is fun but isnt the most reliable route on the other hand i have friends that have been turbo without problems for years...</TD></TR></TABLE>

get me that dyno sheet, i'll paypal you thereafter

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda13typer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a friend that had a ls stock internals make 400whp @ 20 psi but it was finely tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ahem ::clears throat:: BS!

 

not believable till i see a dyno sheet

 

i have a b20 on boost and run it 10lbs daily.

Currently making 250hp and 225tq. Im happy...are you???

Anyways, i like my b20, but i prefer LS b/c u can boost more. btw i dont drive my car like its a POS, so it will last me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9vboi2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a b20 on boost and run it 10lbs daily.

Currently making 250hp and 225tq. Im happy...are you???

Anyways, i like my b20, but i prefer LS b/c u can boost more. btw i dont drive my car like its a POS, so it will last me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, same with me and my gsr hatch now.

What turbo did you go with? I was thinking about rev hard.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcVTEChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

True, same with me and my gsr hatch now.

What turbo did you go with? I was thinking about rev hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i had a sohc drag kit from the old sohc days...

all i did was get a new manifold (b-series) and reused everything else again. turbo is a t3/t4b, small but it works i did run a 13 today !!!