OK I'm a vw driver, but a friend of mine (has no internet) is a HUGE honda fanatic. He has a civic, but wants to sell it for a crx si... so basically i'm helping him out with his project plans since i've been surfing many forums for along time... i figure i could get him the info required to perform this swap, and to choose the right motor.

So, with the up most maturity please, does anyone want to input some MATURE engine swap ideas?

maybe we can start just getting stats down?

ie:
motor name? maybe a brief description of the motor? (dohc, sohc, ect)
found in what car?
typical costs?
power? tq?
swap complications?
wiring?

basic pros and cons... ie, throw in any input, like, which motors are ideal for boosted applications.

I'm pretty sure he wants an all motor crx that hauls... if he can beat my car i'm sure he'd be happy, but i think he wants it even faster... then he can actually run his car at the legal drags instead of watching...

Hopefully we can get a good thread going with solid info for others to search in the future... i searched and found lots of good stuff... but alot of bickering which confused me more than anything.

oh and if you care, i drive an 83 vw gti rabbit, i swapped in a 2L 16V motor, with the stock close ratio tranny.. fun car, but it breaks alot, 1000 dollar motor, another 1000 in swap, fun stuff..

anyway, all input is greatly appreciate, and i promise when he gets the project goin, i'll take lots of pics

OH and one last thing, typical issues with each swap into the crx is great too, ie typical wiring issues, motor mounts, linkages? maybe links to places that sell kits for things liket he motor mounts?

thanks guys, sorry about the lengthy post.. and if this is the wrong forum i apologize.

 

How fast does your car run?

I mean how fast is he looking to go all motor?

He can run 13's on a stock ITR (Integra Type R...195 HP. B18c5 is the engine code) motor in a CRX.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How fast does your car run?

I mean how fast is he looking to go all motor?

He can run 13's on a stock ITR (Integra Type R...195 HP. B18c5 is the engine code) motor in a CRX. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine's nothing to rave about, haven't officially had it reliable enough to hit the track, but probably mid 15's, if i strip it down (has full interior) and practice i'm sure i could go faster .

I think he'd be more than happy with 13's lol!!!.. Money is somewhat of an issue, it's more of a fast street car but within reason.
how much he wants to spend? i dunno, but i think he was intrested in some kind of B16 or B18.. vtec is probably a must hehe

 

http://www.hmotoronline.com has a lot of swaps with linkages, motor mounts and all the stuff you need. There is a swap that has everything for a 88-91 crx that starts at $1499 I believe. It is the b16a1, which is a 1.6 liter DOHC VTEC and there is a lot of info on this site. That would probably be the most recomended way to go.

 

If he wants cheap he can get a b16 swap...everything needed for about 2k. Probably even less if he shops around.

That will put him into the solid 14's. Some good drivers have been able to hit 13.9xxxx @ 96-97 MPH, but honestly these are pretty rare.

Most drivers are running mid/high 14's with a b16 swap.

 

^Thanks, ya that's what i was thinking, i heard the B18 has more torque, but i'm new to hondas.. and i assume the b18 is more costly and not worth it?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85 HONDAsaurus rex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.hmotoronline.com has a lot of swaps with linkages, motor mounts and all the stuff you need. There is a swap that has everything for a 88-91 crx that starts at $1499 I believe. It is the b16a1, which is a 1.6 liter DOHC VTEC and there is a lot of info on this site. That would probably be the most recomended way to go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

excellent, i'll start printing stuff off for him tommorrow... much appreciated

edit* had trouble with that site, seems to just be links to other sites.... uhmm

 

the B18 is indeed more expensive. It's over 2x the cost if you go with a GSR (b18c1). That'd make for a great street car, though. You're looking at at least $2500 for a GSR motor.

You can get a B18a (DOHC Non VTEC)from a USDM 90-93 Integra. ~140 HP, ~120-125 ft lbs TQ...but the engines are usually going to be very high mileage and pretty beat.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the B18 is indeed more expensive. It's over 2x the cost if you go with a GSR (b18c1). That'd make for a great street car, though. You're looking at at least $2500 for a GSR motor.

You can get a B18a (DOHC Non VTEC)from a USDM 90-93 Integra. ~140 HP, ~120-125 ft lbs TQ...but the engines are usually going to be very high mileage and pretty beat.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yikes, these motors are so expensive... but they do make ALOT of power for their size... well i'll show him the thread, hopefully he goes b16 and then hopefully we can discuss that swap in more detail

 

the real site is
hmotorsonline.com

he forgot the "s" when he wrote hmotoronline.com

 

this site helped me out lots when wanting to know diffrent info on motors
click here

 

This article will help...it's old and dated by internet standards, but most of the information is sound:

http://crx.honda-perf.org/arti....html

 

SPECS:
DOHC VTEC 4 Cyl. 16 Val.
• Cable Transmission
• Redline: 8200 rpm
• Diplacement: 1595cc
• Torque: 111 lb-ft@7000
• Horse Power: 160hp@7600
• Compression Ratio: 10.2:1
• Equipped w/ PWO or PR3 ECU

LIST FO PARTS INCLUDED:
• Engine package Includes:
- Block
- Intake Manifold
- Complete Head
- Sensors
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Throttle Body
- Alternator
- Starter
- Ignition Wires
- A/C Compressor
- Power Steering Pump
- Headers

• ECU (Computer)

• 5-Speed Transmission
- With Clutch components assembled to the engine

• Axels
• Intermediate shaft
• Engine Wiring Harness (Cut)

INSTALL GUIDE:
Fits into 88+ Civic/CRX with a ENJO Motor Mount Kit and 90-93 Integra Shift Linkage
Fits into 92+ Civic with Hydraulic Conversion and Motor Mount kit
Fits Directly into 1990+ Integra

This is a 1st Gen B16

 

you can check the link in my sig for a how to b16 swap guide

 

where are you located? im looking to sell my b16a1 complete swap. comes with everything except mounts, linkage and axles. ITR headers, custom ground ITR cams, mugen chipped pr3 ecu and brand spanking new pr3 distributor (almost $500 direct from japan). runs sound, perfect daily driver and fairly quick, but my DUMBASS wants to go TURBO LS (out with the old, in with the new). anyway, email me if youre interested @ bdizzle13@msn.com. just make an offer and ill get back at you. BTW im in Maryland, Baltimore area. sorry for tryna sell my **** in here guys, but this guy sounds pretty interested, just thought id let him get in on a pretty good deal.

 

do you live in a 3rd world country? who has no internet these days..

anyway, http://www.hmotorsonline.com is awesome!

 

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Seriously.. Your friend is a "huge honda fanatic" and he's not on this site?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vitrox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you live in a 3rd world country? who has no internet these days..

anyway, http://www.hmotorsonline.com is awesome!</TD></TR></TABLE>

his parents have it, he just has no time for computers, he's in a constant state of working on someone's car ect.... i'm sure he'll be using my account to check it out.

Don't think he's ready to buy one just yet, still in the information hording stage, but thanks for the offer

and "slowpokesi" your site is amazing!!, the guide is exactly what we're looking for... thanks.

 

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and "slowpokesi" your site is amazing!!, the guide is exactly what we're looking for... thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

gracias

 

here;s your chart

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/index.html