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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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I have been reading about the B16A3 engine and am a little confused.

So far I have found that it came in the 94-97 DelSol Si?

That it also came in the JDM Civic SiR?

That it came with 158hp in the Del Sol and 168hp in the Civic?

How much of this is true?

How do I tell the difference between the JDM and the USDM motor?

Is $1800 a good price for a supposed JDM motor with 40K Miles?

Thanks.

Oh and how hard of a swap is it into a 95 CX
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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If it came from japan it will only say b16a no 3 if it has the 3 it is from a del sol vtec
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95excoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it came from japan it will only say b16a no 3 if it has the 3 it is from a del sol vtec</TD></TR></TABLE> Correct

$1800 sounds about right for what b16's go far, but that's first gen cable tranny ones, not hydro.

As for swapping, SEARCH!. Must be hundreds of posts on swapping B's into 95 cx eggs.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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I did search but still had questions as previously stated.

Thanks though.

Are there HP differences?
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arsenal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been reading about the B16A3 engine and am a little confused.

So far I have found that it came in the 94-97 DelSol Si?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The B16A3 only came in the '94-95 del Sol VTEC (not the del Sol Si, and not '96-97 models). It is an OBD-1 USDM engine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That it also came in the JDM Civic SiR?

That it came with 158hp in the Del Sol and 168hp in the Civic?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The B16A3 from the del Sol was rated at 160hp. The '92-95 Civic SiR engine (referred to as the "2nd-gen JDM B16A") was rated at 170ps, which is 168hp.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do I tell the difference between the JDM and the USDM motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
JDM block stamps only use 4 characters (ex. B16A), while USDM block stamps use 5 characters (ex. B16A3).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is $1800 a good price for a supposed JDM motor with 40K Miles?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it comes with a transmission and ECU, that is a great price. If it is just the longblock, then it is a horrible rip off.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh and how hard of a swap is it into a 95 CX</TD></TR></TABLE>
It is just about as easy as they get. A search will net you more information than you will ever need about engine swaps.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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So there was no B16A3 in Japan? Or how do you tell the difference between the JDM B16A engines, or are they all the same output?
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The B16A3 only came in the '94-95 del Sol VTEC (not the del Sol Si, and not '96-97 models). It is an OBD-1 USDM engine.


The B16A3 from the del Sol was rated at 160hp. The '92-95 Civic SiR engine (referred to as the "2nd-gen JDM B16A") was rated at 170ps, which is 168hp.


JDM block stamps only use 4 characters (ex. B16A), while USDM block stamps use 5 characters (ex. B16A3).


If it comes with a transmission and ECU, that is a great price. If it is just the longblock, then it is a horrible rip off.


It is just about as easy as they get. A search will net you more information than you will ever need about engine swaps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arsenal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So there was no B16A3 in Japan? Or how do you tell the difference between the JDM B16A engines, or are they all the same output?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Technically there are B16A, B16A1, B16A2, B16A3, B16A5... The numbers are gonna be pretty close 160-170hp, like most people, you're probably gonna change the cams, air filter, exhaust, etc. This will change your hp anyways, so once you mod it, take it to a dyno shop to get the actual hp @ the wheels!
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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swapping it will be easy just check out the Swap link in my signature.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Thanks for the link in your thread. Some good info.

Looks like I am going to go for the B16A(3) Called and yes it is the JDM one.

About $2400 Installed. Good price? Milage at 40K
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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i'd say go for it
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 04:47 AM
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if you have any money left pick up some type r cam and enjoy vtec...heheh
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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How much diff. do the cams make?
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">swapping it will be easy just check out the Swap link in my signature.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont see how that helps in anyway in actually perofrming the motor swap :scratches head:
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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Where does the JDM B16A Redline at?
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arsenal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where does the JDM B16A Redline at?</TD></TR></TABLE>
1st-gen is 8000. 2nd-gen is 8200.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arsenal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where does the JDM B16A Redline at?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That depends on what ecu you are runnin...
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolSiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That depends on what ecu you are runnin...</TD></TR></TABLE>
The ECU has nothing to do with the tachometer redline.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ECU has nothing to do with the tachometer redline.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the ECU has EVERYTHING to do with the redline
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spectacle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the ECU has EVERYTHING to do with the redline</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please explain to me how the ECU will affect a painted line on a piece of plastic.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Sorry guys, I thought when you say where does the engine redline at it meant the engine itself which the ECU governs.

If for the cluster i would have said where does the cluster redline at.

Sorry for the confusion.
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