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chipped my p28 and now CEL, but cant figure out!

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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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ok chipped my ecu, went to start the car and the CEL popped on. checked the code but the light just flashes constantly !.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.! i stopped counting at 140 my connections are all good, the car runs but i dont want to drive it till i can figure out what the CEL is...help!

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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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thats weird.. bad chip?
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats weird.. bad chip?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i tried a stock chipped and same thing
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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know any one with a virgin p28? cause that might be your problem. might have put a resistor in the wrong spot which could give you your problem
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">know any one with a virgin p28? cause that might be your problem. might have put a resistor in the wrong spot which could give you your problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

looking for one now...i chipped it just like this:

2 caps in c51 c52, 1 res. in r54, and jumper on j1...that right? thanks
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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i have heard that if u chipped it at the wrong position, it will cause the cel light to be and it wont function correctly.
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ignitecivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have heard that if u chipped it at the wrong position, it will cause the cel light to be and it wont function correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, it seems to idle fine i just want to make sure before i drive it...damn CEL anyone have this problem????
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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one of my p28s has a resistor in R52 (virgin) and the other one doesnt(chipped one), whats the difference? thanks
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1CiViC1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one of my p28s has a resistor in R52 (virgin) and the other one doesnt(chipped one), whats the difference? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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Ya something has went wrong with the soldering. Or else its a bad chip those are the only 2 explanations i could give you
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya something has went wrong with the soldering. Or else its a bad chip those are the only 2 explanations i could give you</TD></TR></TABLE>

appreciate the reply...thats the only thing i can come up with also/ do you know why one of my p28s has a resistor in r52 and the other one doesnt (both virgins)? is there a difference/does it matter? thanks
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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the one with the R52 resistor i believe is a automatic. im not 100 sure but i believe it is.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the one with the R52 resistor i believe is a automatic. im not 100 sure but i believe it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its labeled P28-A00, according to this thread https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=681081 its a manual ecu/ but why the extra res.? losing my mind here i guess ill just take everything off the other p28 that i chipped and try it again :sigh: this sux...should i just chip the one with the xtra res. in it? thanks
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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hopefully this will help you. i see this one is a Manual p28 and it has a R52 resistor. maybe the one without the resistor is a Auto ECU.


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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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thanks for the pic, thats actually the one i followed. but i dont see a resi. in R52 in that pic. am i not seeing it or is it not there?
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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look right in between the red circle and the purple/yellow box the R52 resistor is right there.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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strange, the only res i see in that area is the one in R49, the one below it, R52, seems empty to me... here look at this pic:
see the R52 spot empty and the res above it is in R49? isnt it the same as the other pic?
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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ya ur right i was thinkin the whole spot right there was R52. so ya both have them in the R49 slot.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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ok cool. you think the year has anything to do with it? the one with the res in R52 is from a 92SI, the one without the res in R52 is from a 94EX. any ideas?
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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the year shouldnt have any thing to do with it. since they were for the exact same motor and no changes were made through that time span. my only explanation is its been tampered with or its a automatic ecu.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Since where on the subject of chipping and everything. To chip a ecu do you need a special soldering and desoldering gun or could you use a everyday normal one like the one you could get from Radio Shake?
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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check the solder traces on the under side of the ZIF socket.
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the solder traces on the under side of the ZIF socket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

going to do this tonight...only thing left to check...gotta be it :crossingfingers:
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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i got a problem like this also...if the cel blinks its a bad burn, but if its solid its a bad connection on a solder i suggest you desolder the zif socket and redo it
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since where on the subject of chipping and everything. To chip a ecu do you need a special soldering and desoldering gun or could you use a everyday normal one like the one you could get from Radio Shake? </TD></TR></TABLE>

So....?
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