I'm looking to get my h22a1 block sleeved and i was wondering if anyone could tell me the diffrence in replacement sleeves, and repair sleeves. And also what i need to do to get the precess going.

 

depends where you go.. some places just replace them with a oem like sleeve

others offer an aftemarket, stronger sleeve that allow you to run forged pistons. as well as the sleeve is ductile iron

 

dont get the replacement sleeves unless your goin all motor. the are not meant for boost.

 

by "replacement" sleeve you mean sleeve liners right? Any particular reason why liners are bad for FI?

 

yeah sorry forgot to throw that in, i do plan on going turbo, 18-20psi , so i guess replacement sleeves are what i need to go with.

 

replacement or repair sleeves are strictly what they say they are, whoich is for repairing damaged sleeves or repalcing sleeves that are worn out of spec, they are as thin and light as needed to get the stock cyiner back into spec. if you want to boost get perofrmance sleeves that are designed for boost....

 

There is a huge difference between replacement sleeves and performance sleeves. Replacement sleeves are usually only about .090" thick ( about 22 pieces of paper ) where as performance sleeves are about 3/8" thick ( about the thickness of your finger ) The replacement lines were designed for stock situation use where no additional power was to be made. Performance sleeves were designed to withstand major amount of boost and can have the same reliability as stock sleeves. Our "HD" sleeves also take cooling into consideration, implementing a heat sink type design for better heat dissipation and overall more consistent cylinder bore and ring seal. Hope this adds some insight!
Vince Tiaga

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is a huge difference between replacement sleeves and performance sleeves. Replacement sleeves are usually only about .090" thick ( about 22 pieces of paper ) where as performance sleeves are about 3/8" thick ( about the thickness of your finger ) The replacement lines were designed for stock situation use where no additional power was to be made. Performance sleeves were designed to withstand major amount of boost and can have the same reliability as stock sleeves. Our "HD" sleeves also take cooling into consideration, implementing a heat sink type design for better heat dissipation and overall more consistent cylinder bore and ring seal. Hope this adds some insight!
Vince Tiaga</TD></TR></TABLE>

how would that heat sink type design work on the closed deck h22's and h23's??

 

We do a standard high performance sleeve on the closed deck blocks.

 

go with either Golden Eagle or Benson IMHO

 

Getting mine fully done by earl

 

i got a question about sleaving your engine...do you lose displacement when you get sleaved? or is it bored out?

 

you can get 87mm (stock) or 88, 89, 90. but your an idiot if you start at anything higher then 88.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00LudeLover &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question about sleaving your engine...do you lose displacement when you get sleaved? or is it bored out?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, it all depends on what you want to to. If you have a motor sleeves to the stock bore, then it will retain the stock displacement. If you increase the bore size, then you can add more displacement. Sleeving just adds strength to your block, and the ability to overbore to gain more H.P.

 

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Well, it all depends on what you want to to. If you have a motor sleeves to the stock bore, then it will retain the stock displacement. If you increase the bore size, then you can add more displacement. Sleeving just adds strength to your block, and the ability to overbore to gain more H.P. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He's actually right...just kidding Vince... He is right...

 

basically what they are saying is if you are gonna boost it especially in the h22 case sleeve it with performance sleeves. ie darton, aebs benson golden eagle etc...
btw i use darton mid sleeves

 

hmm.... i'm supercharged with darton sleeve liners (stage 1?). 6psi, I was on a VERY tight budget (both money and time-wise). Nothing seems out of the ordinary yet, but keep in mind I am only 2500mi into it. Whats the worst that could happen with sleeve liners? I'm just curious, and so I know what to expect when/if it all hits the fan in the future.....

 

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talk to a guy on here by the name of EARL. hes well reknowned for his handling and so forth.

 

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talk to a guy on here by the name of EARL. hes well reknowned for his handling and so forth.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so whats that make me?

 

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so whats that make me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

quite useless I suppose?

 

how much does it cost to sleeves a motor????

 

around 1000bucks when its all said and done, unless you know people, that know people....... then significantly lower..... but thats me..... I've had my GE's since back in the day, with no problems what so ever.....

 

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Chopped liver? But I have heard good things about RLZ, Darton, GE, Benson, AEBS as well as others. Just stay away from "Badger" sleeves at least when it comes to Boost and 90mm bore.

Pirate

 

but thats just sleeves to ran lots of boost u need to do much more right