In general terms?

Car has 124k miles, and needed a head gasket. There was a LOT of soot in the cylinders, intake runners near the injectors, and on the exhaust ports and runners.

 

Was it consuming oil? I know my head looked like that and it was consuming mad oil.

 

yeah dude, that looks like you never changed your oil in the whole 124k, you should change every 3000 miles , but looks like it was burning oil and like it may have had a bad seal

 

Got the car not running. Previous owner said no oil consumption (this 4yr co-work would not lie to me). Oil needs to be changed, and is to level.

I am sure that he did not change the oil much, or had the engine cleaned. I'm hoping this is the reason...

Could this just be carbon deposits from 124k of driving?

 

THAT IS ******* NASTY!!! wow you never took care of that motor, i have had lots of motors blow up and none of them look like that

 

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read the whole thread tool, don't just post according to pix....he just got the car....it wasn't him that did this, and you'd know that if you took time to READ and not just look at pix....

 

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By the looks of the spark plug, he might have also have been running lean....but then again that could have been caused by the burning oil.

 

Any clue on it being?
- Normal
- Valve guild seals
- gasket going
- rings

 

I would think its time for a new motor, or a rebuilt because thats really bad. How much did you get it for? Or are you just repairing it?

 

You need to get the whole head serviced. On of your valves got a small chip in it (it will leak). I'm pretty sure that on all other valves, valve margin is pretty much gone so I would replace those valves also. New guides, seals, 3 angle valve job. You could just get vtec head. Block will prolly needs to be bored over, crank polished, align bore the mains, and so on. Basicly just rebuild the engine completly. It depends on what you wonna do. Got four options. Just rebuild the engine to it's stock state (crap), build reliable LS/Vtec, buy a used LS motor and just put it in (prolly the cheapest way to go), or buy another b series (GSR or whatever) and put it in there.

Or you just clean of the engine, slap a new headgasket on it and sell it, if that's too much work for you.

 

This not a chip in the value, that is just soot.

I cleaned the engine and the values look fine, so do the piston tops, and cylinder walls.

I am going to install a head gasket and be done with it.

This could have been from a pluged PCV value for all I know. I know reading an engine is hard with pictures, but I thought some one could point one way or the other.

Thanks for all your help.

 

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Chances are the motor was idling last time those plugs were firing, which means it should be running slightly lean, around 15-15.5:1

 

yeah you can't tell just by looking at it. But it looks like one of your valves is chipped.

 

I don't know why everyone's freaking the **** out...it doesn't look that bad. You can tell 2 things from the pictures:

1.) as Cracka was saying, idling or not, the car was running lean last time it was used and

2.) it was consuming oil at some point (not necessarilly a lot, but enough to put a glaze on the combustion chambers and cylinder walls).

It also seems like it went for a while without attendance after the headgasket incident. My guess is it was a slower leak and not a catastrophic blowout due to the looks of the cylinder walls and piston surface. The rust speaks volumes to the length of time the car spent not-running before this guy bought it, and if there was even a little coolant or water (steam works too) in those cylinders, rust would have formed.

I say you just replace the headgasket, maybe take a drill-hone and clean up the walls and run the bastard until you can get a swap or a newer engine.

 

Run the engine, do this.
http://www.diyimports.com/seafoam.html
Then engine flush, and oil change. Also, use QT's gas for a while, since its toptiergas quality (as standard co-created by Honda) will keep it cleaner. After all this cleaning, let us know. WIth this much ****, I may reccomend goin to GOodyear and having them REALLY clean the internals. They kinda pressure wash the whole damn thing.

 

that does look pretty nasty... my old motor with 98k miles on it was still on shiny and clean looking...

 

with all that crud on there, as long as you know how to take the head off and put it back on properly, i'm gonna actually suggest physically cleaning it. I mean like, by hand, get some simple green, or carb cleaner if it aint that bad, and get that **** shiny again. after all that, run it for a bit, and dont be surprised if you need new spark plugs. but do all the basic crap, sea foam, fuel injector cleaner, clean the pistons, walls, valves. SOmetimes after all this cleaning, the engine wasn't hurt too bad, and will just require all new liquids and will be running well again. but seriously, do all this before you have long term damaging effects. a decent shape Honda motor will give ya 300k miles no problem.

Mike

 

put it together and floor it, that will clean it out

 

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I recommend cleaning it first, but that is about the best advice.

Once you have removed most of the loose carbon, get a fresh tank of Premium and proceed to drive it hard for at least 50 miles.

 

The internals look like they need to thrown away. A good motor rebuild project.

Or you can just clean everything and put everything back to factory spec which is ideal as well. The economical solution.

 

someone needs some sea foam

 

omg what in the hell?

you couldnt look at that and say that, that is nasty?