Toda A's
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There has been alot of talk regarding the toda cam's over at s2ki.com some people have had luck right out of the box. However, a few people have had huge headaches getting gains from the cams and acutally saw losses on the initial install.
I would do a search over there and read up it would seem that unless you are ready to tune and re-tune it would be a somewhat risky addition.
I would do a search over there and read up it would seem that unless you are ready to tune and re-tune it would be a somewhat risky addition.
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Re: Toda A's (vapor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vapor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why are you looking at cams? </TD></TR></TABLE> 
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Re: Toda A's (95dc2)
It will need some tuning to get these cams to make power. I have seen someone who's running the TODA As with e-manage making additional 11whp which I think not too bad from a stock head and bottom end.
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a doesn't answer my question
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Re: Toda A's (03s2kblue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03s2kblue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the toda website they recomend you use toda camshafts with the cams.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Um. Camshafts are cams. So this is confusing. Do you mean cam gears?
Um. Camshafts are cams. So this is confusing. Do you mean cam gears?
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Re: Toda A's (03s2kblue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03s2kblue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the toda website they recomend you use toda camshafts with the cams.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
wow...they recommend that you use toda camshafts...w/ the toda camshafts? before anyone blasts you for this, i suggest re-wording that.
wow...they recommend that you use toda camshafts...w/ the toda camshafts? before anyone blasts you for this, i suggest re-wording that.
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Re: Toda A's (xmugenx)
sorry but did the s2k in the s2k forum that dynoed have i/h/e vafc? or was it the "claims of toda" that had the parts on their s2k? but anyways, if it was only a 5 hp gain, do you guys really think its worth it? i doubt the 5 hp will even make a 2 tenths of a diff. on the car. am i wrong? i mean its an 1100 dollar cam, might as well save an extra G lets say and buy itb's and get about 30+ whp.
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Re: Toda A's (baonest)
too much misinformation being spread. $1100 is only for the camshafts, you'll need the valve springs and labor to have them installed with the cams. The cams will shine when the package is completed with a modified cylinder head, increased compression, and with ITBs. ITB's do not = +30whp by themselves. A full ITB setup will run near $3000. and You'll only see the benefits of running one with a EMS + H/E + Tuning that will take many hours. Put a plenum on the ITB's and you'll negate whatever gains you'll get from running them. But maybe running no air filters on a street driven car is okay? 
NA isn't cheap, it's expensive. To make it work, you need the whole package. It's not like a SC kit where you can install the bare kit without EMS and make power.
NA isn't cheap, it's expensive. To make it work, you need the whole package. It's not like a SC kit where you can install the bare kit without EMS and make power.
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Re: Toda A's (vapor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vapor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">too much misinformation being spread. $1100 is only for the camshafts, you'll need the valve springs and labor to have them installed with the cams. The cams will shine when the package is completed with a modified cylinder head, increased compression, and with ITBs. ITB's do not = +30whp by themselves. A full ITB setup will run near $3000. and You'll only see the benefits of running one with a EMS + H/E + Tuning that will take many hours. Put a plenum on the ITB's and you'll negate whatever gains you'll get from running them. But maybe running no air filters on a street driven car is okay?
NA isn't cheap, it's expensive. To make it work, you need the whole package. It's not like a SC kit where you can install the bare kit without EMS and make power. </TD></TR></TABLE>
there is your answer.
i think the best mod listed above is EMS(to get first) as vapor has posted many a times, tuning is key and is worth the 1200+dyno time.
NA isn't cheap, it's expensive. To make it work, you need the whole package. It's not like a SC kit where you can install the bare kit without EMS and make power. </TD></TR></TABLE>
there is your answer.
i think the best mod listed above is EMS(to get first) as vapor has posted many a times, tuning is key and is worth the 1200+dyno time.
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