About to go force induction in a few months have ?'s and need advice.
Ive search and couldn't find the answers I was looking for. so heres my questions After im done fixing the exterior of my car like the little dents scratches and ****, I plan on buying a turbo kit for my 98 Honda Prelude Type SH its got 85,000 miles on it, Its my only car so its gonna be driven daily. My goal is to make 210- 230 HP to the wheels and run at least mid low 14s and I'll be happy. I don't wanna run no more than 6 psi and for daily driving like to work and around town I'll have the boost to around 2-4 lbs to save gas and I don't want to push the engine hard all the time. Right now my car is pretty much stock. What should I do to the engine before I boost it? is my goal reasonable? please give me info, tips and advice.
Mods can you please put this in Forced Induction? or is it fine here?
Mods can you please put this in Forced Induction? or is it fine here?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A tune up would be good. </TD></TR></TABLE>
just a basic tune up? is a engine rebuild necessary?
just a basic tune up? is a engine rebuild necessary?
For that low of boost it's not necessary to do engine rebuild,
the companies that make kits usually claim that it's safe on stock internals up to 8psi. So you should be alright at 6.
But def get a basic tune up. If you're looking for 210-220whp you might wanna think about goin N/A. For the price of a kit, you should be able to achieve that.
the companies that make kits usually claim that it's safe on stock internals up to 8psi. So you should be alright at 6.
But def get a basic tune up. If you're looking for 210-220whp you might wanna think about goin N/A. For the price of a kit, you should be able to achieve that.
220hp at the wheels works out to around 250-255hp at the fly. (There is around 15% loss of power in the drivetrain in a stock car)
Seriously, if you are only looking at under 6psi, there is no need for a build up. Just get a kit- FMAX aren't too bad, and are easy enough to install. Stock engine is good for about 8-10psi daily driven. Ultimately though, it all comes down to the driver, if you thrash it it won't last long wether you are boosting or not.
If you REALLY want to play it safe, just get a Kit and aftermarket management. Tuning is what is going to protect you engine.
Good Luck
Seriously, if you are only looking at under 6psi, there is no need for a build up. Just get a kit- FMAX aren't too bad, and are easy enough to install. Stock engine is good for about 8-10psi daily driven. Ultimately though, it all comes down to the driver, if you thrash it it won't last long wether you are boosting or not.
If you REALLY want to play it safe, just get a Kit and aftermarket management. Tuning is what is going to protect you engine.
Good Luck
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this is the kind of thing i was thinking of doing as well. what would be good for fuel management at 4-6 psi, would an fmu be adequate? im looking for something that would be very responsive and spool up in the drive through at wendy's
just curious if you should be/ or are worried about the power your going to lose from ATTS... i was just reading the post where its talking much power over 220-250 isn't handled well by the ATTS.
Is that going to tear up the ATTS faster if you run more power constantly? or just cause it, and the rest of the set up to underperform?
Is that going to tear up the ATTS faster if you run more power constantly? or just cause it, and the rest of the set up to underperform?
yeah, supercharging isn't a bad option either, and at least then you are getting the power right away. Problem is, there isn't nearly the amount of support for superchargers as there is for turbo's.
Look, if you are just looking for someone to tell you what to use...;
Go to http://www.turbo-kits.com
I would recommend the FMAX kit. (If you can't follow the links to the Dyno sheet, then you don't deserve our help). Although I haven't used one myself, i have heard that they are pretty solid, and there is no fabrication/bodywork to make them fit- in other words any grease monkey with a couple of hours free time can drop it in for you- saving you a heap of $$$ in labour. They will put you into that power range that you are looking for. They also come with basic management to avoid detonation. It's as close as you are going to come to 'trouble-free' boost.
If you aren't satisfied with the engine management that is included, go get a Hondata setup that will do boost.
http://www.hondata.com/s200.html is a good place to start looking for that- and yes, you will have to get the boost option which costs an additional $200. Again- I don't have first hand experience with this (though I wish I did- no one in Australia knows how to tune them
) Speaking of which- the more time and money you spend getting the tune right, the better off you'll be in the long run.
Seriously, if you are only looking at running that much boost, I can't see you having problems. But if you still are not satisfied, just run the turbo'd engine on the highest octane gas you can get your hands on- get it tuned again and BE HAPPY!!!
Just do a search for the 'OFFICIAL TURBO PRELUDE THREAD'. Cut and past if you have to, it aint real hard.
Look, if you are just looking for someone to tell you what to use...;
Go to http://www.turbo-kits.com
I would recommend the FMAX kit. (If you can't follow the links to the Dyno sheet, then you don't deserve our help). Although I haven't used one myself, i have heard that they are pretty solid, and there is no fabrication/bodywork to make them fit- in other words any grease monkey with a couple of hours free time can drop it in for you- saving you a heap of $$$ in labour. They will put you into that power range that you are looking for. They also come with basic management to avoid detonation. It's as close as you are going to come to 'trouble-free' boost.
If you aren't satisfied with the engine management that is included, go get a Hondata setup that will do boost.
http://www.hondata.com/s200.html is a good place to start looking for that- and yes, you will have to get the boost option which costs an additional $200. Again- I don't have first hand experience with this (though I wish I did- no one in Australia knows how to tune them
) Speaking of which- the more time and money you spend getting the tune right, the better off you'll be in the long run.Seriously, if you are only looking at running that much boost, I can't see you having problems. But if you still are not satisfied, just run the turbo'd engine on the highest octane gas you can get your hands on- get it tuned again and BE HAPPY!!!
Just do a search for the 'OFFICIAL TURBO PRELUDE THREAD'. Cut and past if you have to, it aint real hard.
Ive been hearing good things about greedy, I'll look into that kit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i you only want to boost 2-4 lbs
maybe you should just consider supercharging it instead.
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2-4 psi for daily driving and driving to work but when I need more power I don't want to go no more than 6 psi. I don't like the JRSC because you have to replace belts every 3000 miles and if i ever wanted to make even more power down the rode I could easily do it with a turbo.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arch-Angel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, supercharging isn't a bad option either, and at least then you are getting the power right away. Problem is, there isn't nearly the amount of support for superchargers as there is for turbo's.
Look, if you are just looking for someone to tell you what to use...;
Go to http://www.turbo-kits.com
I would recommend the FMAX kit. (If you can't follow the links to the Dyno sheet, then you don't deserve our help). Although I haven't used one myself, i have heard that they are pretty solid, and there is no fabrication/bodywork to make them fit- in other words any grease monkey with a couple of hours free time can drop it in for you- saving you a heap of $$$ in labour. They will put you into that power range that you are looking for. They also come with basic management to avoid detonation. It's as close as you are going to come to 'trouble-free' boost.
If you aren't satisfied with the engine management that is included, go get a Hondata setup that will do boost.
http://www.hondata.com/s200.html is a good place to start looking for that- and yes, you will have to get the boost option which costs an additional $200. Again- I don't have first hand experience with this (though I wish I did- no one in Australia knows how to tune them
) Speaking of which- the more time and money you spend getting the tune right, the better off you'll be in the long run.
Seriously, if you are only looking at running that much boost, I can't see you having problems. But if you still are not satisfied, just run the turbo'd engine on the highest octane gas you can get your hands on- get it tuned again and BE HAPPY!!!
Just do a search for the 'OFFICIAL TURBO PRELUDE THREAD'. Cut and past if you have to, it aint real hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im reading the turbo prelude thread right now, the highest octane i can get is 91. keep the info and advice comeing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i you only want to boost 2-4 lbs
maybe you should just consider supercharging it instead.
</TD></TR></TABLE>2-4 psi for daily driving and driving to work but when I need more power I don't want to go no more than 6 psi. I don't like the JRSC because you have to replace belts every 3000 miles and if i ever wanted to make even more power down the rode I could easily do it with a turbo.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arch-Angel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, supercharging isn't a bad option either, and at least then you are getting the power right away. Problem is, there isn't nearly the amount of support for superchargers as there is for turbo's.
Look, if you are just looking for someone to tell you what to use...;
Go to http://www.turbo-kits.com
I would recommend the FMAX kit. (If you can't follow the links to the Dyno sheet, then you don't deserve our help). Although I haven't used one myself, i have heard that they are pretty solid, and there is no fabrication/bodywork to make them fit- in other words any grease monkey with a couple of hours free time can drop it in for you- saving you a heap of $$$ in labour. They will put you into that power range that you are looking for. They also come with basic management to avoid detonation. It's as close as you are going to come to 'trouble-free' boost.
If you aren't satisfied with the engine management that is included, go get a Hondata setup that will do boost.
http://www.hondata.com/s200.html is a good place to start looking for that- and yes, you will have to get the boost option which costs an additional $200. Again- I don't have first hand experience with this (though I wish I did- no one in Australia knows how to tune them
) Speaking of which- the more time and money you spend getting the tune right, the better off you'll be in the long run.Seriously, if you are only looking at running that much boost, I can't see you having problems. But if you still are not satisfied, just run the turbo'd engine on the highest octane gas you can get your hands on- get it tuned again and BE HAPPY!!!
Just do a search for the 'OFFICIAL TURBO PRELUDE THREAD'. Cut and past if you have to, it aint real hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im reading the turbo prelude thread right now, the highest octane i can get is 91. keep the info and advice comeing.
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