would it be of any help in performance aspects to hook an filter to a fmic then directly to the throttle body.... please dont bash i was just thinking because i was gonna start buying parts for my turbo. i was woundering what i could go ahead and install now....

 

No.

They already have a "front mount intake" and it doesn't do anything that a cold air intake wouldn't do.

 

yeah i know, but thats really stupid due to the fact the filter is exposed to all kinds of **** your driving into....

...thought maybe having an intercooler could cool intake temps down a little?

 

No.

 

lol.... thanks

 

ya it would hinder performance because most intercoolers have around 1 psi pressure drop, this would starve your engine so as dimi said no

 

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Just like a cold air intake.

 

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werd i had a cai for a while and when iw ould take the filter out if would be black and all mesed up

 

Think about how an intercooler works and you will see why this wouldn't be a good idea. An intercooler is used to cool the charge generated by the turbo. However it cools using ambient air. What does that mean? The intercooler can't cool anything down any cooler than the temp of ambient air.

So an intercooler can't get air any "colder" than a regular air intake. So using an intercooler would just cause more restriction in your intake.

 

Just get a thermal wrap around the piping

 

Just admit it, you want a lame reason to rock the FMIC to look fast(JK ) good luck fitting a filter on the end of your intercooler, i dont know about your car but i know mine is a tight fit. As far as performance wise, it wont make a difference, it wont cool the air any more than it already is...and to whoever said that you would lose performance because of the intercooler pressure drop...thats completely false. An intercooler has a pressure drop in a closed loop pressurized system( In boost) because the air has to expand to fill the volume of the intercooler(hence the pressure drop) If air is not compressed and is just being sucked through there would be no performance loss and no pressure drop. The volume of the intercooler would actually be in vacuum.

 

Ther is some stuf you can do though, especially with well designed venturis, as the pressure and speed change causes a temp drop Hence why carbs /throttle boddies have problems icing in the winter etc

I was also wondering about any king of hook up to the aircon, but i guess the energy lost by the engine cooling the charge is higher than that gained from the charge.

Best bet is to optimes the volumetric and thermal efficiencies of the engine, more gains there than anywhere

Like above an intercooler is a massive pressure drop, so would never work

 

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So an intercooler can't get air any "colder" than a regular air intake. So using an intercooler would just cause more restriction in your intake.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I see where your name comes from now

 

YEAH WHAT DEVINE SAID....

 

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Very VERY wrong, what Soccerking3000 is completely right, the amount of pressure or air mass flowing over the cooler does not affect the pressure drop, it exists anyway due to the increased surface area the air has to travel over. If you have done any fluid dynamics its very clear.

Its basic physics, think trying to drink a glass of beer, the intercooler would act like a straw, well lots of very small straws, so severely reducing the flow rate, unlike tipping the glass and pouring it down your throat. Intercoolers only work as its like shotgunning (where you stick 2 straws in, shake the bottle and tip it up), where the positive pressure overcomes the pressure drop, giving a good flowrate (and bad hangovers )

but the main reason is as kommon sense said, the air your sucking in is the same temp as the air cooling it, so no thermal transfer

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Very VERY wrong, what Soccerking3000 is completely right, the amount of pressure or air mass flowing over the cooler does not affect the pressure drop, it exists anyway due to the increased surface area the air has to travel over. If you have done any fluid dynamics its very clear.

Its basic physics, think trying to drink a glass of beer, the intercooler would act like a straw, well lots of very small straws, so severely reducing the flow rate, unlike tipping the glass and pouring it down your throat. Intercoolers only work as its like shotgunning (where you stick 2 straws in, shake the bottle and tip it up), where the positive pressure overcomes the pressure drop, giving a good flowrate (and bad hangovers )

but the main reason is as kommon sense said, the air your sucking in is the same temp as the air cooling it, so no thermal transfer

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Nice explanation, but I think you might be a lush.

 

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what the hell is a lush? Term hasnt made it to the UK, whats it stand for

Google says its

The Lush: Your "weekend drinker," typically women who only consume wine – though some men fall into this category (see Half-Pint) – and seem to feel the effects after half a glass. Talking level becomes annoying; inhibitations are thrown out the window; speech is slurred; and they may become grabby and clingy. Refrain from getting them into a conversation about ex-boyfriends, or anything personal about yourself. Any more than three glasses in one night and chances of vomiting go up by 50 percent. Chances of falling on *** become 75 percent. Easily influenced and fun to pick on.


Dont fall on my *** that much, we get to drink from 18 over here so we get a lot more practice, especially when your a little bigger and can get away with being in pubs from 16


Modified by CivicESi at 12:25 PM 8/9/2004