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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:48 AM
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im going all motor so i want to know how all you fully built all motor ITR's do at the track.thanks
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:55 AM
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Ask Lip , or better yet, just trade him your ITR for his all motor beast
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:59 AM
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whos LIP......what does he got?
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:01 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:04 PM
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He has a Mini lol
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:22 PM
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He has a Mini lol
Are we talking about the car? lol
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:28 PM
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hahaha
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:29 PM
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heheheheheh
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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no such thing !!!!!
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 01:51 PM
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no such thing !!!!!
You're kidding - right?
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 02:14 PM
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98R #448......you only ran a 14.7 at the track with all those mods........stock ITR does better time than that......whats the deal?
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 02:29 PM
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If you go all motor get the Toda ****, they make some sick *** stuff, its what lip runs in his teg, IM lip or jack (b18cxr) they can tell you all you need to know.

so your in VB, do you have an R or GSR maybe I have seen you before?
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 04:37 AM
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its small..but its compitent. wanna see?

funny guys.
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 04:38 AM
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blah.

here's its debut run. it blew the pc valve off and tossed oil everywhere. I broke the pressure plate going into third gear(clutch master stage 4 hd PP at that). couldn't get it into gear as you can hear and once i did...i looked in my rear view and saw all the smoke. scared the **** out of me...but happy to say...it was nuttin to be worried about. this run was 12.8 108.99mph. I eventually ran 12.54 but recently found out this whole season my fuel pump was pooping out in 3rd and 4th gear at the top of the track. all better now and i can tell its got alot more in it. shame i refuse to race it while its forsale..and the tracks are closing.
http://www.vwsport.com/drag/a&hintegravstransam.WMV

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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 05:08 AM
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If you go all motor get the Toda ****, they make some sick *** stuff, its what lip runs in his teg, IM lip or jack (b18cxr) they can tell you all you need to know.
I would say if its drag racing your after, go with JUN III's. Yes, Toda makes great cams, but if it is a daily driver I think JUN is the way to go. I only have experience with spec B's. The Spec C's are a whole new ball game, but from what I have read and been told, require a lot of tuning, and money to put down numbers near 210whp,(oh before I get bashed here, Im not saying JUN III's will get you 210whp)

Good luck

Bryan

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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 06:32 AM
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terry got one . . . (ingonito) ran a 12.8?-12.9 all motor
just boltons and a set of toda b specs i think ?
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:05 AM
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... recently found out this whole season my fuel pump was pooping out in 3rd and 4th gear at the top of the track.
Jeff,

I hope that wasn't with the Bosch fuel pump since I just picked one up from Larry but haven't yet installed it.

If so, can you tell me what was the fix?
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:10 AM
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nah. this is the reason i purchased the bosch. I haven't installed that either...i put in an intank 255 and saw my fuel pressure raise 8psi even though it was regulated. We did an accelloration chart of me, brauning, silvers and a few others and my accelloration with weight being an adjustment etc...nearly overlapped brauning up til 3rd gear. my chart completely flattened out as his kept going up. We then found out the fuel pressure dropped at high end excelloration. Damn stock pump wasn't cutting it even though initially we didn't see the psi plunge. When i put the pump in i never expected to see an 8-9psi raise in fuel pressure. It must have been like this all year. I was mearly putting in a new pump as a precaution....but found out...it was a need.

When the initial dyno tune was done....i wasn't there. I was told the pressure never dropped(bullcrap). look at the dyno plot!!!! its running out of fuel at the top...its blatently apparent now...i guess i had too much HP excitement and a little gullable



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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:16 AM
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KAPOW! not good,not good,not good
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:19 AM
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lol. thank god it wasn't kaapow. it was just ....cough cough cough

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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:27 AM
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Jspec. here in atlanta I have to think all our cars are slow compared to other parts in the u.s. Everyones times are slower here. Im not the best driver i admit but dam, I have more than 30 passes at the track so I can get good launches and dont miss anygears now oppossed to when i first got my R. I made 163hp to the ground and ran a 14.7 in louisianna then 6 or 7 months later i was making 175 to the ground in atlanta and still running a 14.7?? I know its jacked up but the fastest integra R all motor Ive seen was Rated R's. Who hasnt done alot but has made significant changes. Ive seen him run a 14.6 so I know a 14.5 isnt out of the question. I bet you 2 dollars no one in atl running at commerce, ga with a stock R will even break a 14sec quarter mile. If they do their lying. Maybe somewhere else but not here.


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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:42 AM
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nah. this is the reason i purchased the bosch. I haven't installed that either...i put in an intank 255 and saw my fuel pressure raise 8psi even though it was regulated. We did an accelloration chart of me, brauning, silvers and a few others and my accelloration with weight being an adjustment etc...nearly overlapped brauning up til 3rd gear. my chart completely flattened out as his kept going up. We then found out the fuel pressure dropped at high end excelloration. Damn stock pump wasn't cutting it even though initially we didn't see the psi plunge. When i put the pump in i never expected to see an 8-9psi raise in fuel pressure. It must have been like this all year. I was mearly putting in a new pump as a precaution....but found out...it was a need.

When the initial dyno tune was done....i wasn't there. I was told the pressure never dropped(bullcrap). look at the dyno plot!!!! its running out of fuel at the top...its blatently apparent now...i guess i had too much HP excitement and a little gullable

My latest dyno plot kind looks like this too (drops off at end). How do you determine if its your injectors that are maxing out or your fuel pump?
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:49 AM
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btw- i can get a good price on all Bosch stuff
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:58 AM
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hello,

the chart doesnt show any signs of fuel starvation because: 1) not same amt of o2 around dyno 2) drum load nothing like running at the track without any straps tieing the wheels down to the ground.

When I originally did Lip's slope accelleration curve vs. those of Brauning, Terry, Silvers and Dennis it was evident that the car was dropping fuel pressure on top end/heavy load/ air-ram wind pressure. When you compare Lip's trap speed to his average dyno output no where close ...


Greg
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 09:01 AM
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Since i'm using 440's and detuning them with the DFI...i know its not my injector size. If you don't have this option...you need to know your injector duty cycle and make calculations. Things such as a good AF meter, fp gauge(riser) can give you lots of hints as well. Say your not able to turn up your fuel pressure past 40psi etc. Its not your injectors its your pump normally.
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