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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 03:09 AM
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Default S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain.

Is this safe if i dont go over the stock red line on a gsr? i got s2 valvetrain on it, but i'm worried that the valves are not going to hold up and blow my motor, while i would of just saved and doing things right the first time.


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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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stock valves are fine...as long as u have the springs and retainers you'll be fine.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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bump....anymore replys on this?
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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bump...before work.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoolnG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock valves are fine...as long as u have the springs and retainers you'll be fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (aznstyler119)

you should be fine with the stock valve as long as you have all the internalls and dont mod your head anytime soon then they should be fine
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (JDM-GSRteg)

Well isn't putting in cams and valvetrain consider mods to the head? How far can i push the stock valve before i have to change them out?
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznstyler119 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well isn't putting in cams and valvetrain consider mods to the head? How far can i push the stock valve before i have to change them out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

u MUST have valve springs and retainers, valves are not needed.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSTEG96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

u MUST have valve springs and retainers, valves are not needed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
YUP!!!!
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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i'm riding safe then. i got s2 valvetrain.. my question now is, when do i realli need to change my valve?
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:35 AM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (aznstyler119)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznstyler119 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i'm riding safe then. i got s2 valvetrain.. my question now is, when do i realli need to change my valve?</TD></TR></TABLE>

when you want a bigger or lighter one
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (3.504)

am i even taking a chance of blowing my engine from a valve, if i dont change them? has anyone heard any stories about s2 stage 2 messin up stock valve? I'm thinking i should just wait and put on ferrea valve.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (aznstyler119)

nothing will happen with the stock valve. the only reason for a replacement is for a lighter weight valve (same w/ titanium retainers) or if you want a bigger diameter valve face or both. the aftermarket performance valves aren't stronger or anything, just lighter and bigger (made of different metals for their weight characteristics)
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (3.504)

oohh...thx..that cleared up alot. I'm thinking of just getting some ferrea 6000 series, you guys think that's a good upgrade to be on the safe side, or i should just stay stock valve, my goal is rev up to 9 grand. will stock valve hold?
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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Default Re: S2 stage 2 with stock valve? w/ s2 valvetrain. (aznstyler119)

do ctr valves hold at 9000rpm? those are stock honda vtec valves. and what about ITR's? those will go what 8600... and those are stock valves too. it comes down to lift+spring rate+rpm = if you float or not. you just dont want float (when the valves remain open even though the rocker is starting its decent down the lobe.) so you have: higher lift+you're reving higher, last part of it is... do you have the springs to take on what you're throwing at it? the valves dont matter in this aspect.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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skunk 2 stage 2's should be perfectly fine with stock valves...but I have dropped a valve using crower stage 3's with the retainers and springs...
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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stage 3 are crazy i heard, i'm just scared that i will drop a valve using stage 2.
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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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If you are scared about it then get new valves. The only thing that MAY happen is too much pressure closing the valve could snap the head. I haven't heard of that happening too many times with a real mild set up like this one(usually that becuase the valves were weak to begin with. But if you feel better then go buy some manley valves. And yes most aftermarket valves are stronger than stock. I don't think you would have a problem with the stock ones though.
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